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Offline Stan Back

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3735 on: March 18, 2014, 05:34:15 PM »
I'm trying to imagine you and the Jaguar stuffed in the GT Midget.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3736 on: March 18, 2014, 05:49:33 PM »
Since you bring up the Rover K, have you looked at the BMW twin cam conversion? There was a turbo Mini running one at the salt 2012. I know MM has threatened a couple of times to go looking for  a DOHC of some sort.

I've corresponded with the Kiwis - Essentially, they've built the same short-stroke A series block I have.  They are planning on heading back to Bonneville this year, and I intend to buy them beer.

Unfortunately, the BMW head would knock me out of GT into Modified.  But because engine swaps are allowed in GT - within the same automobile manufacturer - a destroked K series would be a quick way to go DOHC and remain rule compliant.

If I stretched it, seeing as British Leyland owned Coventry, I COULD try a Climax engine, but if I'm going to spend that kind of money on a British engine, it'd be cheaper to build a Jaguar 6.

Yeah - you know there's something's wrong when building a Jag engine is a cost effective alternative to a highly sought-after forklift motor . . .

Ooooppppsss, of course. But, BMW makes Minis...... :wink: :roll:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3737 on: March 18, 2014, 06:39:27 PM »

Here's a build diary of someone who has done it.

It's pretty darned cool, but I'm thinking this is the l o n g way around . . .

http://www.16vminiclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7850

Although they now have kits available . . .

http://www.twinkam.co.uk/shop/category_2/BMW-Twin-Kam-Conversion.html?shop_param=cid%3D%26
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3738 on: March 18, 2014, 11:30:12 PM »
  Or you could put a Buick straight 8 in a Jag. [Don't even think of putting it in an MG. or a Mini].
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« Reply #3739 on: March 18, 2014, 11:57:07 PM »
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it'd be cheaper to build a Jaguar 6

Chris,

There's a 24v 6 cyl DOHC in the garage.  And if you go wide there's a 6.0 12 cyl next to it!  :wink:

Looking forward to this year's run.

Geo

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3740 on: March 19, 2014, 12:11:27 AM »
A couple of years ago at the High Desert Swap, there was an abandoned MG Midget project for sale really cheap.  It had a Datsun L20B in it that seemed to be kind of long.   :mrgreen:

Might have been why the project was abandoned.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3741 on: March 19, 2014, 03:46:59 AM »
XJ6. :? :?
Concentrate on courting KEIRA Knightly and getting her to pay for your racing pursuits, quicker and more likely of success.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3742 on: March 19, 2014, 07:47:35 AM »
XJ6. :? :?
Concentrate on courting KEIRA Knightly and getting her to pay for your racing pursuits, quicker and more likely of success.

Keira Knightly?   The skinny girl in those pirate movies?    :-o    :?

OH WAIT, , , , ,    :|     I guess the IMPORTANT question is:

How skinny is her wallet?    :roll:
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P.S.   I've got most of the bits to build up a 1.0L DOHC 4V Cosworth/Ford if you can figure a way for it to be legal in GT . . . . . . .

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3743 on: March 19, 2014, 07:56:49 AM »
Fordboy - I have the factory service manual on CD for the K.

Cool.   Burn a copy for me if you don't mind.
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« Reply #3744 on: March 19, 2014, 08:02:28 AM »
250 pages of Build Diary?

WTF?   :-o   :?    :roll:

Ahhhhh, hold on, a crapload of that worthless chatter is  . . . . .  me?!?   :-o    :?

Uhhhmmm, nevermind . . . . . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3745 on: March 19, 2014, 09:44:47 AM »
Is that why you never sign off as "Brevityboy"?  :-D :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Wayno

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3746 on: March 19, 2014, 11:48:02 AM »
Is that why you never sign off as "Brevityboy"?  :-D :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Wayno

Ouch Wayno!!    :-D

Well, you pretty much have got my number!!    :-D   :-D
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3747 on: March 19, 2014, 12:10:35 PM »
"...Well, you pretty much have got my number!..."

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3748 on: March 19, 2014, 03:35:49 PM »
Hello All

KETTLE SPEC FOR FORDBOY  :-D

The 16V 1100 engine appears to be a rare beast , its listed as being fitted to the Rover 25 from 2000 to 2005 , but nobody can remember seeing one.
Power listed is 70BHP.

Tech info as follows ( taken from Haynes ROVER METRO , 111 , 114 ) There will be loads of these on uk ebay

1100   bore 75mm  stroke 63.25mm
1400   bore 75mm  stroke 79.00mm

Rod centres 131.5mm

inlet valve        28mm
exhaust valve    24mm

Sorry nothing on cams except lift on K16 8.2mm

As far as I know all the blocks are basically the same size and the 1800 16v head will fit on an 1100 block given thought to valve clearances .

For anyone that dosen,t know this engine , it is basically an empty alloy box with 4 cast iron tubes in it , a crank fitted to the bottom , a head slapped on the top and loads of very long thin bolts holding it all together ( sometimes ) .

The head bolts ALSO hold the crank in it  :-o

Hope this is of some help , they do make big power .

Just another thing , MG/ROVER have been owned by Honda , British Aerospace and BMW over the years.

Could you not fit a VTEC , M3 or a JET ENGINE  :-D :-D :-D


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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #3749 on: March 19, 2014, 04:49:55 PM »
I saw something on Tv about this engine or similar in a Lotus? Long, one time use head bolts as mentioned. Common head gasket issues. What is performance potential? 70 stock, what when you lean on it and has anyone ever done so? And can you swap the head onto the A block ala the BMW swap which would be nice considering a proven, on hand, short block. This is the plan for next winter and another 100 pages while you try to fine tune what you have?? LOL
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