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Offline tauruck

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1440 on: February 22, 2015, 02:43:08 AM »
There was a fair amount of resin left so
I mixed in a handful of Cotton flocks to
make a filler paste. That was carefully applied to
the areas just to get the level up to a decent height.

I tried not to put pressure on the laminate for fear of the
whole thing falling inside the plug.

I used the spatula very carefully and then placed a piece of
plastic bag over the patch. Later I smoothed it the best I could.


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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1441 on: February 22, 2015, 02:44:36 AM »
The bits are post curing and I'll carry on with
the fairing paste later.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1442 on: February 22, 2015, 03:44:58 AM »
so the purpose of the spray adhesive is to stop the cloth from fraying?
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1443 on: February 22, 2015, 10:01:17 AM »
That too but I use it to adhere fabric in upright positions before laminating.
Sometimes we use it to stick stuff down in complex molds.
You know how any composite hates a sharp 90* angle? :evil:

It doesn't interfere with the chemical properties of the resins either or discolor.
When cutting "loose" fabric just spray some along your intended cut line.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1444 on: February 22, 2015, 10:42:04 AM »

You know how any composite hates a sharp 90* angle? :evil:

That's just awesome! I see me using that tip many times.  :cheers:
So does a glue residue remain on the inside after you remove the part? Is it easy to remove?
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1445 on: February 22, 2015, 11:00:43 AM »
No, there's nothing.
The spray adhesive is absorbed by the resin and becomes part of the job.
That's what makes it so good.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1446 on: February 22, 2015, 11:09:02 AM »
The spray adhesive is absorbed by the resin and becomes part of the job.
That's what makes it so good.

You're probably doing it with epoxy. Have you tried it with poly?
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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1447 on: February 22, 2015, 11:01:25 PM »
Mike, I'll do a test for you today before you spend money.
I have Poly here.
Stay posted.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1448 on: February 23, 2015, 12:23:34 AM »
The frustration is getting to me now.
Anger is a better word.

I bought some very good components over the years
and stored them for use when the time came.

This was before the "Salt Fever". For a special project!!!.

Now that LSR is my reason for living lots of my purchases
are biting me in the butt.

My motor of choice is the Ford 351C, obscure like many of the mills
used by you guys but I love it.

I bought what was the best to build a replica of Jack Roush's (Gapp & Roush) Pro Stock motor
but with the more modern parts.

I bought a Nascar type inlet manifold and the only MSD distributor that works with it is #8580
and that has the long shaft.

Now that I'm building a custom EFI type manifold the distributor is too tall and interfering
with the Plenum chamber. Easy solution is to buy the short distributor used in crank trigger
applications. MSD don't list a crank trigger kit for the 351C but yet offer the distributor.
I suppose a universal or the 460 kit could be made to work by modifying or building the bracket.

If I lived in Texas or Arizona I could probably get the part exchanged but I bought the dizzy 10 years
ago and although it's new and in the box my local supplier/importer is an ass and I'd love to break his jaw.
Strong words you say but that's how I feel. He's great at charging crazy money but to return stock to the US
even when incorrectly ordered (not in this case) he makes one feel as though it's your fault.

My option is to shorten the shaft on my current distributor and machine a new billet housing.
If I had the money it wouldn't even enter my mind to butcher a new and expensive part and to try
sell the 8580 here will be near impossible.

I'm going to build the plenum as though I have the short distributor already and pray for a miracle.

I can't contact MSD for advice because they don't list an email address.

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1449 on: February 23, 2015, 12:56:51 AM »
Mike Kelly - PROUD owner of the V4F that powered the #1931 VGC to a 82.803 mph record in 2008!

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1450 on: February 23, 2015, 01:11:04 AM »
See how blinded I am by my frustration?.

Thanks Mike. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1452 on: February 23, 2015, 11:23:22 AM »
Thanks Mike, I wish I could go shopping but not right now.
All you guys ever do is help. I hear there's an ignore button
on the forum. :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
You can't convince me it's neccessary.  I've been on forums in the past
and here this is family.

I thought I had a cool repair job and today the guys sent
for the McLaren bumper. Some dispute between owner and middle man.
Lost that one but something will turn up.

Too depressed to work. :evil:

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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1453 on: February 23, 2015, 02:28:54 PM »
Mike, I understand your frustration. You are a fabricator, these problems can be dealt with, you just need someone to hold hands with. PM me or, if it works for you I'd be happy to talk with you to give some advice on how you can deal with these engine issues. My shop is 714-five seven two-3672. Not sure about the nation code or time difference for you. I'm around most week days 9:00 am till 6:00 pm.
Anyway, a fresh input of ideas will help get you back in the groove.


The frustration is getting to me now.
Anger is a better word.

I bought some very good components over the years
and stored them for use when the time came.

This was before the "Salt Fever". For a special project!!!.

Now that LSR is my reason for living lots of my purchases
are biting me in the butt.

My motor of choice is the Ford 351C, obscure like many of the mills
used by you guys but I love it.

I bought what was the best to build a replica of Jack Roush's (Gapp & Roush) Pro Stock motor
but with the more modern parts.

I bought a Nascar type inlet manifold and the only MSD distributor that works with it is #8580
and that has the long shaft.

Now that I'm building a custom EFI type manifold the distributor is too tall and interfering
with the Plenum chamber. Easy solution is to buy the short distributor used in crank trigger
applications. MSD don't list a crank trigger kit for the 351C but yet offer the distributor.
I suppose a universal or the 460 kit could be made to work by modifying or building the bracket.

If I lived in Texas or Arizona I could probably get the part exchanged but I bought the dizzy 10 years
ago and although it's new and in the box my local supplier/importer is an Acura and I'd love to break his jaw.
Strong words you say but that's how I feel. He's great at charging crazy money but to return stock to the US
even when incorrectly ordered (not in this case) he makes one feel as though it's your fault.

My option is to shorten the shaft on my current distributor and machine a new billet housing.
If I had the money it wouldn't even enter my mind to butcher a new and expensive part and to try
sell the 8580 here will be near impossible.

I'm going to build the plenum as though I have the short distributor already and pray for a miracle.

I can't contact MSD for advice because they don't list an email address.



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Re: Springfield Flyer.
« Reply #1454 on: February 24, 2015, 12:02:29 AM »
Thank you Mike.

I'll definitely be in touch. :cheers: