Milwaukee Midget

[BHR301]

Hi Chris..

My suggestion, for what ever it's worth is to think of your roll cage as you would on an open car. If something happens for you to test the cage I doubt if the top will still be on the car and you will be sitting in the open. Please go back over the rules for a roadster and bring the cage up to spec.

Just a suggestion...

Bill

[kiwi belly tank]

Stick to the rule book Chris, flat bar is not an option. A single tube through this location should cover the rules I would think but again, seek advice from the appropriate place to cover yourself.
In my opinion, a cage should be built to protect the driver & not nessessarilly built to the shape of the car. Having some crumple zone between the body & the cage will soften the hit but you can still tie the two together to stiffen it up.
  Sid.

[Captthundarr]

What Kiwi said. Use the size material as the rest of the cage. Seek input from those that would wag a finger in you face. You've got all the time in the world, some 60days at least.

[Milwaukee Midget]

I AM grateful for this input, and I'm taking it under consideration.

I hope to snap some pictures of precisely where the helmet sits in the cage with the top off.  When you look at the pictures I've already posted, it appears vulnerable, but it's tough to judge scale.  When you sit in the car with a full face helmet on and the lateral restraints in place, regardless of how I position the helmet - even pulling a Linda Blair - I can't get the helmet past the outside plane of the cage.

I'm not being defiant, but I'm suspecting that these photos aren't telling the whole truth as to the very tight confines my noodle and brain bucket are already crammed into.

I'll sleep on it and post up some pics Thursday night.

Thanks for engaging in this discussion - everybody.

[kiwi belly tank]

Chris, get the official word from SCTA, thats all that counts here. The rest of us are just opinions or is it onions or just dingy. It's way past my bed time.
  Sid.

[manta22]

Chris;

"...regardless of how I position the helmet - even pulling a Linda Blair - I can't get the helmet past the outside plane of the cage."

You mean.. you threw up in the cockpit? 

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

[Captthundarr]

 :-DYou kill me Neil.

[Milwaukee Midget]

Chris;

"...regardless of how I position the helmet - even pulling a Linda Blair - I can't get the helmet past the outside plane of the cage."

You mean.. you threw up in the cockpit? 

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

I am SO LOOKING FORWARD to MEETING YOU! 

No, I was thinking along these lines . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxuXQCEC7M

I hope tech goes easier for me than that . . .

[Milwaukee Midget]

So here are shots of my me, the helmet, and the cage -





Me - casting myself in the role of Linda Blair -



I'm sending off a set of these pics to Lee, but I think I'm compliant.

[Elmo Rodge]

You may be compliant but I want you safe, my friend.    Wayno

[fordboy628]

Midget,

Safety first, buddy.

In the event of a rollover/endo, your helmet may be slammed around hard enough for the shell to be distorted/broken, etc.   Your cage looks like it needs a horizontal "containment" bar, ie, a tube of similar size welded to the vertical parts of the cage at noggin level.

Better to add that bar to the cage, than to add a titanium plate to your melon . . . . .    Wiggle pin didn't think he needed extra bars in his cage, and he has a ribcage full of titanium now, AND, the rebuilt cage has the extra cage bars anyway . . . . . . . . . . .      Mini Maven also got T-boned on track and seriously injured.    These are just 2 guys we know locally . . . . . . .     I'm not even going to talk about the 2 bad crashes I've had . . . . . . .        Sh*t can happen . . . . . .

I know one can't foresee every possible negative situation, but you don't want to be on the low end of the bell curve either . . . . .    or willfully ignorant.

JMHO,
Fordboy

[Stainless1]

Chris, everyone is just looking out for a friend... your linda blair concerns me... I think if your helmet will rotate that far your lateral needs tightening... and the bars in the back having connectors mid way like the crayon would be better.  I think you are probably in compliance, and the chances of being on your roof with a 130 mph car are very slim....
but you know how we are     

[Milwaukee Midget]

That's all very sweet of you.

I'm still convinced that in real life it's less ugly than it appears in the photo.  There is clearly an optical issue with the camera.  If you look at the curvature of the wall boards behind the car, you can see the fish-eye perspective that makes it look worse.





I sent these to Lee Kennedy, and while I haven't heard back, the photo isn't helping my argument, so for the cost of an extra bar, I'll do it for the following reasons -

1 - To Mark's point - I don't want to set off metal detectors at the airport
2 - I don't trust Mrs. Midget to trailer a bent-up race car back to Beerhaven
3 - I've got the time - 


You guys are the best, you know . . .  thanks! 

[Captthundarr]

Not to mention the added expense to your daily budget for feeding straws and diapers.
 

[manta22]

Chris--

Thanks for that clip. Max von Sydow is one of my favorites ever since seeing "The Seventh Seal."

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ