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Offline Milwaukee Midget

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1650 on: September 28, 2012, 10:43:37 PM »
I should point out that the gasket Fordboy measured last June was NOT the gasket I used in assembly.  This is a new gasket that was allegedly built to the same spec as the original gasket.  I've no doubt the gasket he measured DID measure .033 - I just went out and checked it.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1651 on: September 28, 2012, 11:22:28 PM »
Never trust mom, she said Asparagus was tasty and then your piss smelled like an old drunk!

Forn the record, my mom comes to me for recipes these days! :wink:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1652 on: September 29, 2012, 11:29:53 PM »
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1653 on: September 30, 2012, 12:04:11 AM »
Hell, there could be thousands of micrometers that measured stuff that went to the moon.

Only a rare handful have measured a Bonneville record holder. :cheers:
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« Reply #1654 on: September 30, 2012, 09:15:15 AM »
 And while we are on the subject, NEITHER method reveals the actual dynamic clearance at 8500rpm (or

boy o boy have I learned that the hard way---I am running a 4.25 crank with 6.535 rods in a 9.8 block---we chose the short deck when I was the eng. partner in Skip H's car. We kept hurting pistons & rod brgs from what I was told was detonation at the time.  Marvin the eng builder  has gone up 10 thou on gasket thickness to compensate for piston rock and thermal expansion.  Hopefully this will put an end to our longevity problems.
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« Reply #1655 on: October 01, 2012, 12:20:17 AM »
And while we are on the subject, NEITHER method reveals the actual dynamic clearance at 8500rpm (or

boy o boy have I learned that the hard way---I am running a 4.25 crank with 6.535 rods in a 9.8 block---we chose the short deck when I was the eng. partner in Skip H's car. We kept hurting pistons & rod brgs from what I was told was detonation at the time.  Marvin the eng builder  has gone up 10 thou on gasket thickness to compensate for piston rock and thermal expansion.  Hopefully this will put an end to our longevity problems.

Ah, to be building a big block - just add .010.  If I were to do that, I'd lose about a point of CR.

Sparky, I was thinking about trying to pull and reinstall the cam without dropping the pan, which would require I use magnets on the end of some tubes and lash 'em up, then pull the offended tappet through the cam bearing hole with a magnetic probe.  There's no tappet chest.  The only other way would be pull the whole engine and come in from the bottom - a PITA, for sure.

But I hadn't thought about the potential effect on the bearings.  I should probably also check the # 1 con rod for straightness after this near miss.  They're pretty stiff, and probably okay, but I don't know that for sure, and I'm not going to risk it.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1656 on: October 01, 2012, 06:53:21 AM »
Assuming you're using hydraulic lifters Chris, you can buy a tool to pull them. It's a bit like the ones you use to reach deep and pick up something you dropped. Held with index and middle finger, activated by the thumb. It grips the lifter via the circlip groove that retaines the guts of the lifter.
There's also a flash model that has an expanding collet and slide weight.

If you're using solids,you're on your own. It's late and I'm too tired to read back and check sorry.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1657 on: October 01, 2012, 07:00:26 AM »
Assuming you're using hydraulic lifters Chris, you can buy a tool to pull them. It's a bit like the ones you use to reach deep and pick up something you dropped. Held with index and middle finger, activated by the thumb. It grips the lifter via the circlip groove that retaines the guts of the lifter.
There's also a flash model that has an expanding collet and slide weight.

If you're using solids,you're on your own. It's late and I'm too tired to read back and check sorry.

Cheers,
Rob

Great idea, but the lifters are solids & can only be removed from the bottom on late style BMC blocks...............  Late style blocks do not have a tappet chest or covers.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1658 on: October 01, 2012, 07:24:45 AM »
Thanks Fordboy,

All my greatest ideas are useless  :-D

If it's late for me it must be really early for you!!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1659 on: October 01, 2012, 07:43:13 AM »
WE did loose compression---we are down to 12.8  Marvin calls my eng,  a HOT street eng,  he says he has built street engs with more CR
Miss LIBERTY,  changing T.K.I.  to noise, dust, rust, BLUE HATS & hopefully not scrap!!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1660 on: October 01, 2012, 10:12:42 AM »
Thanks Fordboy,

All my greatest ideas are useless  :-D

If it's late for me it must be really early for you!!

Cheers,
Rob

It's a bummer because I even HAVE the tool!!!   Used to use it a lot on Chevy/Ford V-8's.   Corvairs too!!  (don't even ask.....)

Yes, it is very early & I am unable to sleep.  I am adjusting poorly to this ageing thing.  Guess I need to add more barleywine to my diet.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1661 on: October 01, 2012, 10:29:39 AM »
WE did loose compression---we are down to 12.8  Marvin calls my eng,  a HOT street eng,  he says he has built street engs with more CR

Sparky,

At MORE than 12.8/1 for street, what do they use for fuel?  VP Blue @ 114 octane is pretty pricey per gallon for street use.....       More importantly, what are the effective (static c/r - inlet valve closing point) & dynamic (effective c/r x volumetric efficiency %) C/R's?  These C/R's determine the octane rating of the fuel you must use to suppress detonation.......
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1663 on: October 04, 2012, 12:03:05 AM »

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1664 on: October 04, 2012, 09:03:18 AM »
Chris:

You should make a pass thru Colorado and pick up some of this beer: http://blogs.denverpost.com/beer/2012/10/01/joke-wynkoop-brews-rocky-mountain-oyster-stout/6330/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dp-blogs+(Denver+Post%3A+Blogs)
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I've sampled some pretty weird brews in my time, but this one appears to be the 'weirdest' possibility.   What would be the side effects, if any?   If the side effects are like Viagra..........count me in for a sixer.........

Guess I shouldn't sample that "Lobotomy Bock" I picked up in NOLA........
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