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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2310 on: March 25, 2013, 05:20:02 PM »

I understand a videographer will be making his way up from the cheeseless plains of the snow covered southern hinterlands, so Wisdonm and Fordboy, clean, non-offensive T-shirts, please . . .


Boy, add nearly a year of age and all the fun just evaporates faster than Jamesons on a hot summer day. . . . . . . . . . . .

Since you've gone to the trouble of sending E-invitations, I'll attend in "Black Tie".

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2311 on: March 25, 2013, 05:49:25 PM »
Damn you guys. Now I have to get a new t-shirt.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2312 on: March 25, 2013, 06:50:40 PM »
Mike Kelly - PROUD owner of the V4F that powered the #1931 VGC to a 82.803 mph record in 2008!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2313 on: March 25, 2013, 11:12:18 PM »
Chris, have a couple similar to those that I wore under my flight suit...  If you need them for emergency overshirts for the boys, send me a PM and I'll mail them to you.  :-D
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2314 on: March 25, 2013, 11:35:44 PM »
I can just see the article in "GQ"  . . .

"Fast Forward Fashion for a Fine Dyno Experience".

Hell, I should talk - I'll consider myself lucky if I've got clean sox on the 3rd.

Well, this was a productive day.

I was able to confirm my last measurements at the dyno shop, and they have extra long ignition wires I can use, so I can set my ignition box close, but not too close.  This will be sans my digital analog conversion effort, which I've moved to the back burner - I have enough on my plate, and the ignition I have works fine.  

I dropped off a pilot bushing to be turned down at C&S, and Mel didn't run into the back room and hide from me.  He'll become more scarce when I pull the engine from the MGB, I'm certain.  

All but one of the coolant lines are in place - I need to stop and pick up a section of 9/16 heater hose and some clamps, and that will put that to rights.

Breather vents plumbed.

Fordboy, a question for you.  How much fuel do you think we'll need?  A 1/2 hour of run-in time and let's say a dozen pulls?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2315 on: March 26, 2013, 03:28:31 AM »
I can just see the article in "GQ"  . . .

"Fast Forward Fashion for a Fine Dyno Experience".            Ah, alliteration.   Your Achilles heel, so to speak. . . . . .

Hell, I should talk - I'll consider myself lucky if I've got clean sox on the 3rd.      I will have clean socks by design. . . . .

Well, this was a productive day.       Updates to dyno checklist recorded. . . . .

I was able to confirm my last measurements at the dyno shop, and they have extra long ignition wires I can use, so I can set my ignition box close, but not too close.  This will be sans my digital analog conversion effort, which I've moved to the back burner - I have enough on my plate, and the ignition I have works fine.    Thankfully. . . .  

I dropped off a pilot bushing to be turned down at C&S, and Mel didn't run into the back room and hide from me.  He'll become more scarce when I pull the engine from the MGB, I'm certain.       Updates to dyno checklist recorded. . . . .

All but one of the coolant lines are in place - I need to stop and pick up a section of 9/16 heater hose and some clamps, and that will put that to rights.       Updates to dyno checklist recorded. . . . .

Breather vents plumbed.      Updates to dyno checklist recorded. . . . .

Fordboy, a question for you.  How much fuel do you think we'll need?  A 1/2 hour of run-in time and let's say a dozen pulls?       See below. . . . .

Midget,

Let's presume:

1/    A resultant of .55/.60 BSFC       (this is about where you are going to end up, based on my previous experience.)

2/    A max of 15/16 pulls,  @ a max of 60 seconds elapsed time per pull   (probably will not take that long at 300 rpm/sec [10 seconds] or 100 rpm/sec [30 seconds]
       acceleration rate. . . .    based on an rpm spread of 5500 rpm to 8500 rpm for a net of 3000 rpm/acceleration rate.   Steady state step test may take slightly longer.)

3/    .5 hour of run time for break-in at say 1/2 throttle, so lets say approximately equals 1/4 hour @ full throttle    (over estimated. . . . .)

4/    Your fuel specific gravity of ??      (.700 to .740 would be the normal range for 110+ octane gasoline, but let's say 5.8lbs/gallon [.695 sg] to over estimate. . . . . )
       [.74 sg * 8.345 lbs = 6.175 lbs]    {VP Blue = .733 sg;  ERC A-19A = .699 sg}         http://www.smithtex.com/racing/fuelcomp.html

OK .    So a total of 1/2 hour full throttle run time * .60 BSFC * say a max of 100 bhp = 30 lbs of fuel consumed divided by 5.8 lbs/gal = 5.1724 gallons    [4.86 gal @ 6.175]

5 gallons minimum, because you don't want to run out in the middle of a pull. . . . . .     You might want to run in on race fuel they can supply, (only if it meets your engine's requirements. . . . ) to preserve your stuff for the full throttle pulls.   Or bring more than 5 gallons.

Will post an updated Dyno Checklist later this week when I have the carb linkage finished.    I think I can get a tux made in woodland camo in time for this schedule. . . . . :-D
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Fordboy

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2316 on: March 26, 2013, 04:17:51 AM »
That's a whole tank of gas!
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2317 on: March 26, 2013, 08:55:23 AM »
That's a whole tank of gas!

Is there anywhere in Beerhaven where you can get Premium Leaded?    Or Aircraft Premium Leaded?     I'd be nervous about anything less than say 100/102 octane (R+M/2). You could carefully run-in at part throttle on those, before you shpank it.    But the little voice in the back of my head says it is probably not worth saving $5, or even $10, versus the value of the engine. . . . . . . . .

How well do you know the Easter Bunny?    You really don't want to lay an egg at this point. . . . . . . . . . .      False economy has a giant set of teeth. . . . . . . . .

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2318 on: March 26, 2013, 09:03:54 AM »
False economy has a giant set of teeth. . . . . . . . .

 :cheers:
Fordboy

. . . . . . . . . . . . and that's the whole truth!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2319 on: March 26, 2013, 09:18:28 AM »
False economy has a giant set of teeth. . . . . . . . .

 :cheers:
Fordboy

. . . . . . . . . . . . and that's the whole truth!

Pete

Yeah!     Don't ask me how I know. . . . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2320 on: March 26, 2013, 09:28:20 AM »
Midget,

I know you are concentrating on the engine.   But check out some of the brake drag reduction ideas on the tech thread for later on . . . . . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2321 on: March 26, 2013, 09:28:56 AM »
Okay, that tells me what I need to know.

I've got some 114 left over from last year that's been well sealed - I'll go pick up another pail.

I have 2 gallons of VP C-14   SG .696    114 Motor Method

There would have been more left over, but the snow caught me with an empty tank of regular.  That was fun, following around a Toro dual stage with the ultra rarified oder of burnt racing fuel causing a mild headache.

At Bonneville, I think I'm looking at

ERC - A-19A  SG .699  117 Motor Method

I'll confirm that and try to find a VP product close.  We can do the run in on the old stuff.  
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2322 on: March 26, 2013, 09:35:51 AM »
Good Plan.

See, you're getting smarter already, even without the trick calculator. . . . . . .     :-D
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2323 on: March 26, 2013, 10:27:04 AM »
Required wear, no?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2324 on: March 26, 2013, 10:53:35 AM »
Required wear, no?


Dean, how long did you work in wardrobe at Warner Brothers? 

I think our L.A. fashion consultant has picked a winner!

A link?

Another one I'm looking at -

http://www.cafepress.com/mf/19344423/aseries-engine_tshirt?shop=Acmespeed
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