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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2130 on: February 22, 2013, 01:53:49 PM »
Write it stone Chris! That way, you'll be ready by April 13th! :wink:

Actually, I have other plans on the 13th of April, but this makes for a nice seque -

I've been asked by the MG T Register of New England to be a speaker at the Cecil Kimber Festival that day in Bennington, Vermont.  I'll be speaking on MG's history at Bonneville, and talking specifically about the Midget build.

http://www.nemgtr.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=267&Itemid=286

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We certainly hope that you are planning to be with us for the Kimber Festival on April 12-14 in Bennington, Vermont. If you have not registered
yet, please do so now using either the form provide in TSO or on line at nemgtr.org. Registering ahead of time always makes life easier for the event organizers; of course, if you see your way clear to attend at the last minute, please do so.
 
The event opens with a party to celebrate Cecil Kimber’s 125th birthday at the Hemmings Motor News museum right across from the host motel. The museum will have on display Chris Nowlan’s Bullnose, and he will give the opening presentation entitled, “The Morris Motors 11.9 hp M.G. Supersports: A Process of Authentication.” Chris’s research on this car has been extensive ranging from Australia to the UK, and the process is as interesting as the discoveries.
 
On Saturday there will be an array of presentations that should enlighten and entertain everyone in attendance. M.G. has a great tradition of going after speed records. Geoff Wheatley was raised in the shadows of the Abingdon M.G. works, and will be presenting a paper on Brooklands, the track where M.G. scored many victories. Atendees will have their knowledge of M.G. record breaking enhanced with Chris Conrad’s  “Speed on Salt: A Midget Among Giants on the Bonneville Salt Flats.” Chris will start with a bit of history then describe his construction of the M.G. he will run at Bonneville’s Speed Week next summer.
 
The technical side of M.G. will be well covered with two presentations. Hal Kramer’s “Inside the T Series M.G. electric System” should answer some serious questions about what makes our cars go! Roger Morse will discuss a dual circuit brake system for racing as well as road safety.
 
Richard Miller is going to observe an Oxford milestone with “The Morris Motors Cowley Works at 100: From Bullnose to Mini.”  Dave Lawley will do a follow-up on his 2012 paper about M.G. sales literature. Peter Ross owns an M.G. that was raced in prewar America and will share his knowledge of  M.G.s in the USA in the 1930s. Hemmings has been invited to tell us about their publishing in our hobby, past, present, and future.
 
The Kimber Festival will not only honor Cecil Kimber on his 125th birthday but also takes a look at many subjects to enlighten enthusiasts.


So if you're in the Albany/Bennington area the weekend of the 12th-14th of April, please come join us.  

And Wayno, I've been assured by the organizers that they will have Old Speckled Hen available.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2131 on: February 22, 2013, 04:38:35 PM »
No hijack intended. My buddy has a few of these English cars on his property. It seems he was bitten when he still lived in Denmark.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2132 on: February 22, 2013, 04:42:00 PM »
MM do you still need the 1 3/8 clutch disk? I might have one lying around, same as top loader.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2133 on: February 22, 2013, 04:53:53 PM »
Sorry about that. posted that before I got to the wanted section.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2134 on: February 23, 2013, 10:02:52 AM »
No hijack intended. My buddy has a few of these English cars on his property. It seems he was bitten when he still lived in Denmark.

Shame on you - hijacking a thread about a Pommy car with a picture of a Pommy car - and no mention of beer!  :wink:

By the way, welcome aboard, Tauruck.  That Ford ute of yours is otherworldly.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2135 on: February 23, 2013, 10:26:01 AM »
Re: Intermingling of the Species,  Final Chapter.....

Welllll.....    not quite.......


Midget, et all,

Control your impulses, photos to follow.......

BMC/Chevy dyno adaptor PORN!!   Just released!!

Midget, et all,

I think I'm gonna call this post:
The BAD, the GOOD, and the UGLY. . . . . .          (no reference to Mr. Eastweird intended. . . .)

The BAD:

Not too bad after all.  Tight fitting bolt threads required retapping of all the bolt holes as delivered.  Just a minor pita*.

The GOOD:

       Naked plate.                                                                                  Naked plate set on mock-up mule.

       Another naked view.                                                                       Fully bolted up to mock-up mule.

       Close-up view of starter bolts.                                                         Close-up view of oil pump cover relief.

All in all, the adaptor plate/sex toy appears to fit up acceptably.

The UGLY:
Well for Spridgets and other inline BMC "A" series engines, there is no "UGLY".   This set-up is going to work as planned.

But, the "UGLY" does impact the Mini-Mavens. . . .      After a protological inspection of an assembled Mini engine/gearbox/transfer case, turns out that there is no way this style of adaptor will work for a "tranny" BMC.   Sorry guys, Minis will need a whole different approach for effective "Intermingling of the Species".   And there doesn't seem to be much need south of the "cheddar curtain", as one shop has an set-up/adaptor already made up.
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Fordboy

edit was required to try to align pics with captions.  Slim, my session timed out again.  How can I avoid this issue??

Further edit: STILL CAN'T GET PICS TO ALIGN SIDE BY SIDE!   WHAT THE HECK???  NEVER A PROBLEM BEFORE.

ADDITIONAL EDIT: NEVERMIND!!!   MEA CULPA, MEA MAXIMA CULPA. . . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2136 on: February 23, 2013, 10:38:51 AM »
Sha-ZAAAM!

Egghead Junior, that's prettier than a Rainbow Toad in a Magnolia Tree!



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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2137 on: February 23, 2013, 10:58:39 AM »
Will it adapt to a BMC "B"?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2138 on: February 23, 2013, 11:07:33 AM »
Will it adapt to a BMC "B"?

Unknown at this time.  I suspect the answer is no, but if you can provide Chris with a bare block to offer up, we can be certain.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2139 on: February 23, 2013, 11:17:30 AM »
Hey, Don -

No, the bellhousing is not the same, BUT, I'm planning on having the drive hub drilled to mate up to a B flywheel in addition to the Spridget.  I'm thinking of giving Dick a call and see if he can loan me an MGB flywheel to grab the dimensions off of. 

Come the day I rebuild my B engine, all I'll have to do is to get the dimensions off of an MGB bellhousing and have that plate whipped up - which, if I'm not mistaken, will also mate up to the MGC and the Rover V8.

Chris

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2140 on: February 23, 2013, 12:02:57 PM »
C trannys use a different bell and case, same insides. V-8s use adapter plates. So nothing, B, C, nor V-8 is interchangeable.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2141 on: February 23, 2013, 12:37:45 PM »
C trannys use a different bell and case, same insides. V-8s use adapter plates. So nothing, B, C, nor V-8 is interchangeable.

Okay, that explains the cross numbering parts interchangability of so many transmission parts. 

I suppose that was to be expected from a company notorious for "badge engineering".  :roll:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2142 on: February 23, 2013, 12:43:15 PM »
The C uses the big Healy bell pattern and the V-8 uses a GM pattern. That's why Rovers could use GM automatics.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2143 on: February 23, 2013, 12:50:30 PM »
That and the Rover V-8 was a Buick!  :-o :-o

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2144 on: February 23, 2013, 02:57:05 PM »
Will, it adapt to a BMC "B"?

Midget, Don,

Does the MGB have a separate bellhousing?   Or is it like the "A" series, with the bellhousing integrated with the transmission case?   A serarate bellhousing would allow a simple "flat plate" adaptor, between the Superflow absorber unit and the "B" bellhousing.   The Superflow absorber unit has both Chevy & Ford transmission mount patterns drilled into it.  Have made several adaptors of this type, notably Jag 3.8/4.2, and Chrysler 392/354/331 Hemi.   Much simpler and cheaper adaptor than what is required for "A" series.
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