Milwaukee Midget

[fordboy628]

Re: Intermingling of the Species,  Final Chapter.....

Welllll.....    not quite.......

Midget,

In the dark of last night, in a clandestine foray, south of the cheddar curtain, another co-conspiritor was enlisted to violate the sanctity of individual species......

A former BMC, now Ford-powered racer, daytime engineer, and night-time machinist with a digitally equipted vertical mill has been initiated into the ranks of the faithful: "The Order of the Leaky Labyrinth"   He has sworn his allegiance and was inducted at the rank of:  "Wiggle-pin", second class.

He estimates delivery of BMC/Chivalay sex toy in approximately 7 days.   Attempt to contain yourself.

Over & out,
Rocket J. Squirrel

P.S.  Bullwinkle has "neuter-ized" Boris........

[Milwaukee Midget]

Oh no, you don't - this story is just beginning -

Dyno info -
 
It's actually a SF-902, Not a 901
 
500 gallon
 
Spline diameter - 10 spline, 1.375
Pilot nose from front of face - extends 9/32
Pilot length - to base of chamfer/radius - 1 5/32
Front of spline to face - 1 5/16
Back of spline to face - 3 3/8
Spline length 2 1/8
Pilot diameter .582
 
They can make the cable work - I'll need to source a cable ~ 48" long.
 
No exhaust gas metering - I'll need to fab up some sort of an adapter which will afix to the face of the Weber that will fit a 5.030 diameter air horn to monitor air intake - I think I can make that happen - we have some sheet metal stamping equipment here at the shop.
 
Fuel metering is there.
 
Upper radiator hose is set up for -16 - lower 1 1/2
 
Printout is spreadsheet - no provision for graph, but graph paper is cheap enough.
 
They were impressed that I was this serious about it, and very helpful.  I was the lovable penile device today.

[fordboy628]

Dyno test prep notes:

Midget,

I'm pressed for time today, added some comments into your text, sorry.....

Oh no, you don't - this story is just beginning -

Dyno info -
 
It's actually a SF-902, Not a 901      No problem there.
 
500 gallon      Shouldn't be an issue at your estimated bhp output.
 
Spline diameter - 10 spline, 1.375
Pilot nose from front of face - extends 9/32
Pilot length - to base of chamfer/radius - 1 5/32
Front of spline to face - 1 5/16
Back of spline to face - 3 3/8
Spline length 2 1/8
Pilot diameter .582         Better to have been SBC rather than BBC, we will just make it work with a proper drive adaptor.
 
They can make the cable work - I'll need to source a cable ~ 48" long.   OK.   I may have enough bits for a pull rod system as I previously used.   Will dig through my bits.
 
No exhaust gas metering - I'll need to fab up some sort of an adapter which will afix to the face of the Weber that will fit a 5.030 diameter air horn to monitor air intake - I think I can make that happen - we have some sheet metal stamping equipment here at the shop.    Having an airbox to adapt your Weber to the S/Flow airflow turbine is essential to validate engine airflow #'s & BSAC.   These #'s need to be captured for serious development.........   Need to discuss minimum airbox (plenum) volume & dimensions.
 
Fuel metering is there.     Think I have a -6 to Weber adaptor or a adaptor line.
 
Upper radiator hose is set up for -16 - lower 1 1/2.    Upper adaptor needs to be a "Y" for flow.   Lower adaptor needs to be tapered rather than stepped, again for flow.
 
Printout is spreadsheet - no provision for graph, but graph paper is cheap enough.    I'll bring my laptop with my spreadsheet & graph program.    Won't be instant information, but it will be faster than graphing by hand.  Can they burn a disc of all the runs?
 
They were impressed that I was this serious about it, and very helpful.   Just goes to show you how serious their average customer is about development...........     I suspect those customers just want a number.  If the number is good or higher than they expected, OK.   If the number is lower, then they probably get:  "What's wrong with your dyno?"

I was the lovable penile device today.

I talked to Pauley d/P about a sprung hub clutch disc for BBC.  Struck out.  All he had was SBC coarse spline and BBC fine spline.

I'm hoping that the mounting bolt pitch circle diameter for the hub of the sprung center, and the BMC flywheel clutch cover PCD, are different enough to prevent a complicated drive adaptor.   See if you can come up with a clutch disc that can be measured, so this is not a last minute thrash.    I'll pull the dimensions off your stock BMC flywheel and put them into A/cad to begin the adaptor design.

I think you might be figuring out why guys garage test their beer selections and don't bother to dyno test their engines........
 
Fordboy

[fordboy628]

Midget,

"Wiggle-pin" reports BMC/Chivilay sex toy is now completed.   Requests pickup @ earliest convenience.  Also recommends avoidance of Boris & Natasha.

Over & out
Rocket J. Squirrel

[fordboy628]

Re: Intermingling of the Species,  Final Chapter.....

Welllll.....    not quite.......

Midget,

"Wiggle-pin" reports BMC/Chivilay sex toy is now completed.   Requests pickup @ earliest convenience.

Over & out
Rocket J. Squirrel

Midget, et all,

Last night, in another clandestine foray, south of the cheddar curtain, to an unspecified location in a chi-town exurb named for a deceased Prince of the Catholic Church, possession of the aforementioned BMC/Chivilay sex toy was transfered from agent "Wiggle Pin", to the duly appointed representative of the Milwaukee Midget.   Control your impulses, photos to follow.......

Over & out
Rocket J. Squirrel

P.S. Can anyone recommend a "Moose Whisperer"??

[fredvance]

They sell Moose slobber beer in Wendover. Tastes like it too.

[Milwaukee Midget]

They sell Moose slobber beer in Wendover. Tastes like it too.

Must be made with the local water - 

Given my location, we'll be bringing our own beverages, thankyouverymuch.

Fordboy comes through!  Thanks for the footwork and computedium, brother. 

The next piece will be the hub adapter.

Salt27 sent me a disc to cut up, but unfortunately it turned out to be 1 1/8" splines, rather than 1 3/8".  No biggy - Don, if you want it back, drop me a PM, or I can bring it back with me in August - and yes, there is still aforementioned beer in this for you and your trouble.

Located an aftermarket Flathead disc that is going to work perfectly.

In this sport, it all seems to go back to the flathead, doesn't it?

[Tman]

Thats Moose Drool from MT. Good beer if you like stouts and porters.

[38flattie]

They sell Moose slobber beer in Wendover. Tastes like it too.

In this sport, it all seems to go back to the flathead, doesn't it?

Hmmm, YOU could have the first flathead powered Midget!

[fordboy628]

They sell Moose slobber beer in Wendover. Tastes like it too.

In this sport, it all seems to go back to the flathead, doesn't it?

Hmmm, YOU could have the first flathead powered Midget!

I recommend a special flathead configuration:  4 Briggs & Stratton 13hp singles, coupled @ the crankshaft in a V4 format, a twin-twin.   Raising stock power 100% = approx 104bhp!

Potential sponsors could include:
Harley-Davidson, Milwaukee Brewing Co, Precision Engine Balancing, Flatheads Forever, the Milwaukee Brewers, and the Arkham Asylum!!
 
Fordboy

[salt27]

Chris,
My apologies, I thought that as far as Chevy splines went all you had to do was count 10 or 26, I didn't even consider diameter.

As to what to do with it, do you shoot skeet?

  Don

[Milwaukee Midget]

Chris,
My apologies, I thought that as far as Chevy splines went all you had to do was count 10 or 26, I didn't even consider diameter.

As to what to do with it, do you shoot skeet?

  Don

Actually, Fordboy wants it for his collection.  It's going to a good home.

There are plenty of dynos that use that pattern, just not the one I'm using.  I expect it will some day be happily spinning a SF 902 behind some orphaned Lotus/Cosworth/EuroFord engine derivative at speeds and outputs that would frighten the original engine designers out of their wits.

Thanks, Don!

Hmmm, YOU could have the first flathead powered Midget!

Phil Hill already beat me to it . . .

http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/SkivUnknwnMG2.html

The MG T-types were also referred to as "Midgets".

No, the only thing new under the sun is that damned FlatCad you're screwing together! 

[38flattie]

I never would have guessed that!

When is dyno day?

[Milwaukee Midget]

I never would have guessed that!

When is dyno day?

Phil Hill - 200 MPH club member - went in driving the MG Twin-Cam EX181 - the "Roaring Raindrop".


Regarding the often mentioned, equally often postponed "Dyno Day" . . . ahhhh, yes.

Soon.

I'll be picking up the bellhousing adapter on Tuesday, but I still have to have the drive hub adapter whipped up.  I'm hoping to have it drilled in such a way that it will also fit an MG 1.8, and maybe the K-Series Rover.

Just thinking down the road a bit.

You know, let's set an arbitrary deadline - that way it will give me a goal.

March 13.

But that's only written in pencil.

[38flattie]

Write it stone Chris! That way, you'll be ready by April 13th!