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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2010 on: January 16, 2013, 11:03:06 PM »
Looking good Chris.  Best of luck this dyno run!

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I’ll begin setting up the wiring harness for the dyno tomorrow.

I know someone with some yellow wire.  Still has smoke in it.

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« Reply #2011 on: January 17, 2013, 12:17:52 AM »
Looking good Chris.  Best of luck this dyno run!

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I’ll begin setting up the wiring harness for the dyno tomorrow.

I know someone with some yellow wire.  Still has smoke in it.

Geo

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« Reply #2012 on: January 19, 2013, 06:14:27 PM »
Spent a few hours today combing back and forth between my pile of transmission parts (now bagged and tagged) and the exploded diagram in the factory manual, which looks nothing like the Haynes manual, or the Chilton Manual, or the exploded view on the Moss Motors site.  Odd that 4 different organizations will each pay somebody to create four completely different drawings of the same transmission, yet I can't get measurements for a bellhousing bolt pattern.

I'd been scratching my head wondering why my Moss order hadn't arrived - they're usually really good on that end - when I went to my account online and discovered I had put everything on the "Wish List", but hadn't pulled the trigger on the order.   :|

That's actually good news, because my inventory of parts disclosed that I had more of what I needed on the bench than I had originally thought, so I was able to knock about $50.00 off of the order.  I placed it this afternoon.

Sometimes my occasional lack of follow through works to my advantage - but not usually . . .
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« Reply #2013 on: January 24, 2013, 02:04:44 PM »
Midget,

OK, OK, I GIVE UP!!!  Went hunting for the build page with the rod & piston & etc weights, but my vision started spinning........      Tried the Sinatra Method (laying face up on the floor), but the room started spinning..........        Have been diagnosed with Milwaukee Midget withdrawal.

In the interest of public mental health, it is your responsibility to start posting up again..........
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Fordboy

P.S.   need the page #, or the weights of the components...........     and/or a new doctor..........
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« Reply #2014 on: January 24, 2013, 02:48:57 PM »
Midget,

 the weights of the components...........     and/or a new doctor..........
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Pistons are 256 g each, including the pins, less rings - three ring set - the rods, 442g.

It wound up being about a 35% reduction in recip weight, and as I recall, the crank saw a similar reduction.  

All transmission parts have arrived - including the backordered parts.

I have a friend who knows a doctor in Sweden that specializes in tranny conversions . . . would that help?

I'll be in the studio tonight - launching springs and ball bearings hither and yawn . . .
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"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
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« Reply #2015 on: January 25, 2013, 04:57:25 PM »
I have a friend who knows a doctor in Sweden that specializes in tranny conversions . . . would that help?

I don't think so.   I figured you could swap-out the trans bits by yourself.......... :-D

But then again, if she is a Tony's Avatar type doctor, who knows??
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2016 on: January 28, 2013, 05:20:06 PM »
INTERMINGLING OF THE SPECIES.....  AKA,  DYNO ADAPTOR PORN!!!!

Little Tommy, er, Midget......

At long last:  illicit mating of BMC to Chivalay......    (Rumored to be penalty of death in most Star Systems, probably too pleasureable.......)

Dyno adaptor shape, dimensions to follow.....

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Science, NOT Magic . . . .

I used to be a people person.  But people changed that relationship.

"There is nothing permanent except change."    Heraclitus

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."     Albert Einstein

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2017 on: January 28, 2013, 06:07:28 PM »
Looking good, Fordboy!

Chris, there is a good tranny Dr. in Trinidad, CO, also. I wouldn't advise picking 'girls' up in the bar there, though! :-D
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« Reply #2018 on: January 28, 2013, 06:11:17 PM »
I'm against picking up any tranny girls.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2019 on: January 28, 2013, 06:35:29 PM »
and the colored girls go...do do do do do do do-do-do-do do do do do do do do do
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« Reply #2020 on: January 28, 2013, 09:37:19 PM »
Lou Reed, right?   It took me a second or two - Nancy came up with the singer's name.  We were listening to some Tommy James and the Shondells -- kinda difficult to make the switchover.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2021 on: January 28, 2013, 11:11:49 PM »
Lou Reed, right?   It took me a second or two - Nancy came up with the singer's name.  We were listening to some Tommy James and the Shondells -- kinda difficult to make the switchover.

Grab your berets, we have a winner - tonight’s hipster award goes to Jon and Nancy.  You've won a pair of tickets to see Jonathan Richman at CBGB's. 

Too bad the place closed.

Well, let's transition from tyrannies to transmissions - I'll post up the pics once it's completely assembled.

Up until this last weekend, the most frustrating task has been installing glass in the windshield frame.  And while I'm no alien to a transmission rebuild, the convoluted measures the Abington addleheads came up with to secure gears on shafts falls confidently into the slot of bewildering.

I've been chasing ball bearing, pins, springs and plungers around the basement for three days.

Fordboy tells me, "It's a British thing".  Again, I'll post up pics later - after I've had time to look at them and try to explain what they're saying - it's not self evident.

Anyway, Fordboy - A quintabazillion thank-yous for the drawing.  This is huge, and near as I can tell, the only one ever put out on the interwebby to share with other A-series guys.  You've done the world a tremendous service - now we can ALL dyno our Spridgets and Minis, and find out how much horsepower they're not making.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2022 on: January 28, 2013, 11:32:03 PM »
I rest my case.

Why use four parts when there is the opportunity to use twenty?

In British car designers minds bolts are an infinite resource, we are thinking of you in that dungeon, wrestling the BMC serpent.
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« Reply #2023 on: January 28, 2013, 11:53:00 PM »
I rest my case.

Why use four parts when there is the opportunity to use twenty?

In British car designers minds bolts are an infinite resource, we are thinking of you in that dungeon, wrestling the BMC serpent.

Doc, if it were bolts, you would not be hearing me complain.  Bolts, I understand and know how to operate.

No, quite the contrary, the combination of spring loaded twist locks and pins, and ill conceived dimensions brought me to my wit's end.

I was begging for the simplicity of something threaded.

This seems more like a Soviet design, where you have lots of people who can spend countless hours dinking around trying to put one shaft together.

The only upside was that because I changed out the gears to a close ratio set, I was able to install the mainshaft without having to drop the layshaft - the sizing was sufficiently different between the old and the new sets to avoid having to rip my knuckles.

I'm degreasing and drinkin', boyz.  The tail shaft housing can wait . . .

So I guess I'm resting my case as well . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2024 on: January 29, 2013, 02:50:17 AM »
So I guess I'm resting my case as well . . .


What color is the case. Yellow?
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