kent , i live wayyyy down here, half a world away from you and your orginization, i wouldn`t have a clue who worked for you, and if my observations have dragged up bad blood, well im sorry but it surely was not my intention to do that,,, that said, as a member of this forum i can ask what i like, and as you know lsr is new to australia, so there is a lot for us to learn,,,, now the reason i posted my observation, is that i have started on a new project, with the view to running the complete toy package, and wanted to find out more about it... i wasnt going to post till latter in the year, but since isiahstites had bought the subject up, i went with it,, i am coming over to la in november for the nhra finals, whilst there i was planning on dropping in and discussing my project with you