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Offline jo maoma

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2520 on: May 09, 2013, 01:01:54 PM »
congrats, go get 'em...
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2521 on: May 09, 2013, 09:12:22 PM »
WELL?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2522 on: May 09, 2013, 11:47:02 PM »
Quote from: fordboy628 on March 31, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
Midget,

I hate to make predictions, it is too easy to get bitten in the a**, by a monkey or crocodile. . . . . .      but, here goes. . . . . . .

I'd be satisfied by the dyno session if:

1/   It stays together,
2/   No additional problems are discovered,
3/   We get all the testing we want to do finished,
4/   The BMEP is 190 psi or better,
5/   The corrected TQ is 76 lb/ft or better,
6/   The corrected Bhp is 95 bhp or better.

I know this is a long list, but as usual, I'm thinking long term.
 :cheers:
Fordboy

For everyone waiting and holding their breath. . . . . .

Breathe. . . .

We are in a holding pattern due to noise ordinances in Gurnee, IL.   We had to shut down testing @ 5pm today to comply with the regulations.

But,

1/  The jewel has amassed more run time than it ever has done before.
2/  Condition 1 has been satisfied, so far.
3/  Condition 2, not so much.   Jewel currently has a different Weber Carb on it.   Original Weber has a problem with the accelerator pump circuit.
4/  Have made progress from where we started out, we are up about 60% over the start.
5/  Staying focused on the target, but we have turned off the targeting computer and are now using "the force".

I'm going to let Chris give you the numbers of where the jewel is at, because I don't want to spoil his fun.

So like the Lone Ranger serials at your 10 cent Saturday Movie Matinee. . . . . . this episode is:

to be continued. . . . . . . .
 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Tonto

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Offline Dean Los Angeles

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2523 on: May 10, 2013, 12:47:44 AM »
ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DATA!!!! WE WANT DATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DIDN'T READ 169 PAGES OF THIS CLAP TRAP TO WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW!
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Offline SteveM

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2524 on: May 10, 2013, 08:46:52 AM »
It was so strong that Gurnee, IL could not tolerate its presence after 5:00 p.m.?

I suppose they were concerned that small children would be terrified, and women would leave their men to see what all the fuss was about?

A running engine on a dyno is the stuff of dreams for me right now.

Steve.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2525 on: May 10, 2013, 09:48:50 AM »
Steve, you are partially correct. That little monster ate up that 2,000hp dyno and spit the pieces out.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2526 on: May 10, 2013, 09:54:03 AM »
Well, Don - let's be honest - those pins in the dyno spline were loose to begin with.

Still, it's rather humerous watching a 1 liter four-popper spitting drive pins out the side of a hole in a bell housing!

No dynos were damaged by our attempt.

Condensed from the "Dynothon" thread -


At the end of the day, and running into a noise ordinance curfew imposed on T&T in the municipality of Gurnee, Illinois, our best pull clocked in at 88.2.  Given more time – which I will coordinate with Tom, Mark, Don and T&T, I am certain we will be able to best that.

We have reams of data to comb through – 15 complete and incomplete pulls, tuning notes and recollections that Mark and I need to coordinate, but we all agree that we left horsepower on the table – and we’re going back to get it.  In fact, I didn’t even bring the engine home – it’s on a dyno cart, waiting for our return

I’ll have a complete breakdown on the day at some time that I can bend my mind around it.  But once we got a working carb on this thing, we were making jet changes and ignition changes at a break-neck pace.  It was 7 hours of maddening tedium followed by a geyser of useful data.

The fun has just begun.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2527 on: May 10, 2013, 10:14:04 AM »
Congrats!  :cheers:  88.2 hp!!
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2528 on: May 10, 2013, 10:28:12 AM »
Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on May 10, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DATA!!!! WE WANT DATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DIDN'T READ 169 PAGES OF THIS CLAP TRAP TO WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW!

Dean - Check your e-mail . . .  :evil:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2529 on: May 10, 2013, 11:31:31 AM »
Quote from: Duck-Stew on May 10, 2013, 10:14:04 AM
Congrats!  :cheers:  88.2 hp!!

Thanks.  While we were hoping for a breakthrough, we're very pleased with the very large dents in the door!

Bigger chokes are in order - 1.5 vac at 8000 rpm?

More air, please . . .
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Offline Dean Los Angeles

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2530 on: May 10, 2013, 11:50:36 AM »
Oh, silly me. When I said "we want data", I just wanted "88.2".

Chris sent me the whole dance and show.

Yep, I concur. The poor darling is starving for air.  It looks like the cam is as aggressive as you thought it was going to be.

The run progression shows clearly that smart people are gaining on the problem. When you learn to bring the love to the top rpm I can smell hp.  :evil:

Winning run attached.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 11:53:20 AM by Dean Los Angeles »
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2531 on: May 10, 2013, 12:55:06 PM »
Chris, Fordboy, et all,

Great news!  Wish I'd been there!  :-D  Looking forward to the next event and results.  :cheers:

I can't wait though. I'm sending my check to Jon for my best guess hp ammount 103.  So $103.00 to Landracing in the name of MM.

Geo

P.S. In looking at the data I think the problem is with the humidity - column CK
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2532 on: May 10, 2013, 02:09:17 PM »
Lovely and no broken parts.

Keep on truckin'.

FREUD
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« Reply #2533 on: May 10, 2013, 03:09:06 PM »
Chris, Mark and Don,
Congrats on the numbers and not having any MAJOR issues!   :cheers:

We WILL see it north of 100HP next time!

Gregg
Also, donation sent to Jon.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2534 on: May 10, 2013, 03:54:11 PM »
Any video?!?!?!
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