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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2490 on: May 02, 2013, 03:21:12 PM »
Yeah, yeah -- but i figgered some smart-butt here would try to pass off numbers that appear whole -- but are to the right of the decimal, you know. . . :evil:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2491 on: May 02, 2013, 03:32:45 PM »
Chris,
Count me in!! at a buck a pony. Only stipulation is that I get a good cold porter of some sort come August!!

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« Reply #2492 on: May 02, 2013, 05:33:37 PM »
I'm in, put me down for Aus$1:00 a hp.
Your doing ok at that Slim.

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« Reply #2493 on: May 02, 2013, 08:24:42 PM »
I'm overdue to make a donation; put me down for Aus $1.00 per neddy as well, I'll Pay Pal it in!  :cheers:

Now you have an incentive! But don't 'Pop' it on the dyno!!  :-P

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2494 on: May 02, 2013, 09:07:40 PM »
Okay – I need to make one more confirmation call, but as of today, the dyno session is on.  Thursday, May 9.

This is also posted up under the subtitle of Landracing Forum Home > Fundraising, For sale, and Wanted > Website & Kudos Laser items for sale

With that, welcome to the Milwaukee Midget DYNOTHON!

And to make it interesting, I’m challenging ALL of you to –

A – Join in the fun.
B – Help us raise some funds for this website, which Slim and Nancy have been bearing the headaches and responsibilities for - along with the help of a few volunteers, for – heck, quite a while, now.

With Slim’s cautious blessing, I’m challenging you all to make a commitment to support this site with a donation.  The donation will be based on the BEST HORSEPOWER PULL WE CAN GET OUT OF MY 999 CC, 5 PORT, CARBURETTED, NORMALLY ASPIRATED, 3-MAIN BMC FORMULA 2 SPEC A-SERIES ENGINE.

Based on what is typical of the BMC engine when set up for racing, our best, optimistic guess should see this thing at between 93 and 105 horsepower.

Some examples for comparison

1. A 1310cc version of this engine, built by Fordboy, cranked out about 135 horsepower.  That was on SU carbs, and built to SCCA specs.

2.  On the other end of the spectrum, Dick Leuning of MG Limited and the Killer Beez racing team told me that 95 hp was about all one could expect out a 948 Sprite block, fully prepped.

What distinguishes my engine from either of these examples is what follows –

A.  I have the bigger bore of the 1310 engine, which allows me the use of bigger valves than the 948 Sprite engine.
B.  I have a shorter stroke and, of course, less displacement than the 1275 based 1310, but the 1310 is considered undervalved for its displacement, so the head, though intended for a larger engine, actually breathes better with respect to the displacement than the larger engine.
C. I’m running a Weber DCOE carb, rather than the SU carbs, with a better breathing manifold than one can typically find for SUs.
D.  I’m running a direct fire Electromotive ignition which will allow me to dial in the advance curve to within an inch of its life, plus provide the safety of a knock sensor.
E.  The cam was custom ground by Dema Elgin to specs set forth by Fordboy for this specific application.
F.  We’ll be experimenting with three different sets of headers, and possibly two manifolds, looking for the best power under the curve we can get.  That said, the final iteration of the tune may not necessarily be the one with the largest horsepower number – we may decide to give up a little on top for a tad more grunt.  Nevertheless, the largest horsepower number we generate will be the multiplier for the donation to landracing.com that I’m asking you to commit to.

Fordboy will be posting the numbers.  Yeah, I know, he’s a Bears fan, but I do trust him with numbers.

I’ve kicked it off with a commitment of $1.00 per horsepower.

Rex, Jon and Graham have already met that challenge – thank you gentlemen.  My goal for this is to see Slim and Nancy rake in at least $2,000.00 from this little side show.  If I can pull 100 hp, we’re already 1/5th of the way there.

No contribution will be considered too small, and if you’d rather not make your generosity public, simply PM Slim the amount you want donate per horsepower, and we’ll maintain your anonymity.

Let’s keep this site financially healthy, and have some fun doing it.

Thank you in advance for your generous participation!

Chris Conrad
« Last Edit: May 03, 2013, 12:19:06 AM by Milwaukee Midget »
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2495 on: May 02, 2013, 10:34:22 PM »
And you're cruising around in the "High on Crackmobile" if you think the 18th of May is on Thursday.  :-D :-o :? :cheers: Wayno

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2496 on: May 03, 2013, 12:20:04 AM »
And you're cruising around in the "High on Crackmobile" if you think the 18th of May is on Thursday.  :-D :-o :? :cheers: Wayno

Wrong on-ramp . . . May 9th.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2497 on: May 03, 2013, 12:49:30 AM »
Chris, a quick comment about your A and B info above....

A.  Having a bigger bore is something to be proud of....  :-D

B.  Having a shorter stroke.... not so much  :roll:

Good luck on the dyno
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2498 on: May 03, 2013, 04:51:31 AM »
G'day- put me in for $1.00 per hp as well. I have gained so much knowledge (and pure damm enjoyment) from this site that a hundred odd bucks is still very good value.
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2499 on: May 03, 2013, 05:38:25 AM »
Chris, a quick comment about your A and B info above....

A.  Having a bigger bore is something to be proud of....  :-D

B.  Having a shorter stroke.... not so much  :roll:

Good luck on the dyno

Stainless.....ROTFLMAO!  :-D

G'day- put me in for $1.00 per hp as well. I have gained so much knowledge (and pure damm enjoyment) from this site that a hundred odd bucks is still very good value.
                                                              Denis
I agree with what Denis said, such a knowledgeable and fun site! It's really not hard to learn quite a bit here.  :cheers:

Put me down for the $1.00 per hp fun and festivities as well.   :-D

Gregg
« Last Edit: May 03, 2013, 06:40:14 AM by gkabbt »

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2500 on: May 03, 2013, 05:43:55 AM »
G'day Blokes, count me in as well. So as to provide extra incentive though I'll pay the following.
0-90 HP and yer get nothin',
$10 bucks per HP for anything over.
Cheers, Dave.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2501 on: May 03, 2013, 09:18:48 AM »
Chris, a quick comment about your A and B info above....

A.  Having a bigger bore is something to be proud of....  :-D

B.  Having a shorter stroke.... not so much  :roll:

Good luck on the dyno

My capacity has always been limited, but the reciprocating mass is stiff and runs smooth.

I think the engine should run okay, too . . .  :wink:
« Last Edit: May 03, 2013, 09:21:30 AM by Milwaukee Midget »
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2502 on: May 03, 2013, 09:41:14 AM »
   They always told us that the straight 8 crank had too much flex, but so far, no complaints.  :evil:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2503 on: May 05, 2013, 12:14:16 PM »
Dynothon update

We’re making some progress – the following people have publically proclaimed their support of landracing.com with pledges of support for the Dynothon, this Thursday, May 9th –

Rex Shimmer (US)     $1/hp
Jon (Aus)       $1/hp
Graham in Aus (Aus)   $1/hp
Aussievetteracer (Aus)   $1/hp
Gkabbt    (US)      $1/hp
DaveL (Aus)      $1/hp   
Geo (US)                    $1/hp
Wheelrdealer (US)                 $1/hp
Jh333 (US)      $2/hp
Myself  (US)      $1/hp

So far, we’re at $11.00 per horsepower (which I can assure you, is a fraction of what these little ponies are costing me to produce) and if I can pull 100 hp out of this lump, that would put us at 55% of the goal of $2,00.00 for Landracing.com.

Currently, 40% of the contributors are Australian.  That’s impressive for a country that is 7% of the population of the United States.  Stepping to the plate, and punching above their weight.  Thanks, guys!

I am beginning to wonder if there are any racers in Canada . . .

If you’re reading this, you’re using the service – pony up!
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #2504 on: May 05, 2013, 02:42:06 PM »
put me down for $ 10.00 per Hp over 93 hp
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