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Offline John Noonan

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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2005, 01:28:00 AM »
Interesting..very interesting.. good thing I wont't ride an open wheel bike at Bonneville anytime soon  :(  ..El Mirage here we come..  :p
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2005, 02:09:00 AM »
Are the SCTA rules for EL Mirage the same ?
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2005, 02:11:00 AM »
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  Are the SCTA rules for EL Mirage the same ?
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 No at El Mirage there is not an "M" class so what ever bike you run is "A" class only..
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2005, 09:47:00 AM »
As long as you  have enough classes to go around and nobody has to actually race.
 Remember at El Mirage they have to administer minimums so it makes sence to have fewer classes and yours be soft but amoung enough stuff that it won't be noticed.
 
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2005, 11:18:00 PM »
I just want to go as fast as I can on a bike I can modify and get ready for this season.
 
 Was planning to run in the special construction class, but if the fuel tank allowed won't hold sufficient fuel to make a pass that could be a problem.
 
 I can lower the seat by chopping out the subframe, battery holder and the rear shock.  That could be hard and I expect the rear shock is important.
 
 Foot pegs and wheel base are easy. So, with the three out of four requirement, I have to decide whether suffiecnt fuel or a rear shock is most important....
 
 Nobody said it would be easy.
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2005, 01:54:00 AM »
It is easy until you have to think it through.
 Shame on you if you go too fast without enough stuff.
 Class "A" is not for sissy's and you don't want to run a lesser bike.
 If the modifieds are faster, just ignore them. We know who is right.
 Or so I am told.
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2005, 10:20:00 AM »
Paul, when you call me today I will explain it...no worries you are covered...  :p
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2005, 01:19:00 PM »
Scott, I'm not as concerned with records as I am in going fast, so it might be best for me to stay in the MPS class.
 
 I had a record for a while, so I got that need out of the way, (you took it from me last year, after I took it from Jason the year before).
 
 I don't want to step backward in my quest for speed, this year my goal is to exceed 200 mph, whether or not I get a red hat.
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2005, 01:52:00 PM »
Well at least they are there to step on and they don't seem to mind. You find they really cheer for each other but of course they would rather do it from the top.
 The rules makers seem top spend a lot of time on requirements that should be options in what should be an unlimited class.
 Modified bikes should have performance restrictions derived from production and class A should be unrestricted within the bounds of safety.
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2005, 09:04:00 PM »
Jon,
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2005, 09:31:00 PM »
Jon,  
 We have been discussing the small fuel tank issue for the A bikes and may make a rule change for 2006.  It seems that this rule was inherited from the AMA rules back in the 1950's when SCTA first allowed motorcycles to run at Bonneville.  All records set previously were run under those AMA rules. And to maintain tradition, the same rule set was continued. We are still trying to determine the original rationale for the rule. At this time, there does not seem to be any advantange (over the bikes that set their records with the small gas tank rule) for the current entries, if they want to use a larger tank.  
 
 So, if you know of someone that is having a problem because of an inadequate supply of fuel to make a run on the long course (e.g., an alcohol burning, big inch motor, with a hot cam and lots of overlap), they should send me a request for a consideration of their problem.
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2005, 09:32:00 PM »
The best protection is to eliminate all the entries that have gone before and hope the fast ones won't come back.
 That otta do it.
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2005, 10:26:00 PM »
A 550 hp Hayabusa running on Gasoline will burn just over one gallon (long course), so an Alcohol burning Hayabusa making the same HP (at a lower boost setting) will need just under twice the amount which is more than the current (long standing rule)of under 1.3 gallons...
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2005, 11:01:00 PM »
I took a stab and looked up the tank size specified in 1980 for a class A bike.
 NONE is mentioned. 1975 is the same as is 2002 and 2003.
 However an M Class bike has a minimum if the stock tank is not used.
 Shall I read some more or can you explain it again?
 It looks like more than a typo and don't lay it off on AMA.
 If you don't know the difference, you should.
 If you don't know, don't make it up.
 
  <small>[ March 24, 2005, 01:25 AM: Message edited by: JackD ]</small>
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Re: Class a bike tank size
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2005, 12:51:00 AM »
Thanks Russ,  nice to know that considerations
 may be made if brought to attention of committee..
 
 very cool...
 
 Joe  :)
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