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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2007, 03:31:18 PM »
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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2007, 05:43:03 PM »
i have had a look through the bonneville record listings (1350 to unlimited) on this site, and the Marby Racing Triumph is the fastest old school shown @238.74 8-),,  i am interested to know what the 1350 and 1650 APS/BG,BF,and MPS/BG,BF old school records were before the hayabusa invasion :-D,,, reason being i am about to build up a old school 1350 APS/BF,  gs1150 suzuki and require a "target" :wink:

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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2007, 05:48:00 PM »
Oh, no, I'm at it again.  I think it's spelled "Mabry", not "Marby".  You wouldn't want your name spelled wrong, would you?
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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2007, 09:50:51 PM »
there has been a few of that exact build type...

will get pics swanson was one, ran open
and with fairing, also the USFRA guy, fine gentleman
name on tip of my tongue...who fell ill....both over
between around 195-210 ish...

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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2007, 10:05:02 PM »
As soon as I saw Scott was on the board I knew we would get the answer.

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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2007, 10:12:21 PM »
Scott is very close to the bitter truth.
Dave used Bob's water jackets on both the open bike and the liner.
Leo Hess rode the same "Chopper" to the top speed ever for a "Push Rod Bike" at El Mirage in 84 at 215.063 for a record that still stands.
It is kinda like the Old Eagle that ate the young Rooster.
Mostly feathers and not much meat.
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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2007, 10:54:54 PM »
i have had a look through the bonneville record listings (1350 to unlimited) on this site, and the Marby Racing Triumph is the fastest old school shown @238.74 8-),,  i am interested to know what the 1350 and 1650 APS/BG,BF,and MPS/BG,BF old school records were before the hayabusa invasion :-D,,, reason being i am about to build up a old school 1350 APS/BF,  gs1150 suzuki and require a "target" :wink:

stayt`ie,
I think you answered your own question, the "target is the current record.
 
You can make a brick do mach2 if you give it enough horsepower (F4). 
Good luck with your project.
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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2007, 11:17:54 PM »
Stainless, the new kids will not know a F-4 was a fast aircraft :roll: A GS1150 should be a good motor, lots of old drag race part are available.
John Gowetski, red hat @ 221.183 MPH MSA Lakester, Bockscar #1000 60 ci normally aspirated w/N20

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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2007, 12:50:03 AM »
Don Vesco also holds the 2000 cc S-G record at 303.812 with the old Yamaha in 1975 :-o
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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2007, 01:57:00 AM »
Don Vesco also holds the 2000 cc S-G record at 303.812 with the old Yamaha in 1975 :-o
The same bike was the Lightening Bolt (Kawi) and the Sky Tracker(Offy. :wink:
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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2007, 02:46:55 AM »
How about fastest single-engine sit-on bikes with no blower or turbo?  I think it's Dan Kinsey at 226.148, and Dave Matson at 225.643, both 2000 cc class, but I believe Dave's motor wasn't even close to that size, there was no 1650 class back then.  I asked Dan at the first BUB meet what the actual size was of his motor, and he said just under 2000.  Now that Dave has built a bigger motor, I sure would like to see him get a couple good passes in, and see what kind of number he racks up.

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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2007, 05:35:14 AM »
top stuff, this is the the information i was lookin for 8-), some photo`s would now be interesting :wink:

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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2007, 10:53:06 AM »
staytie they are in our pre 1999 files, I will either
scan my old ones, or see if Jon can drum them up

cal swanson, had a red suzi mechanical fuel injection turbo
I believe a zx11 upper.....

will keep working on this for you...

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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2007, 11:35:01 AM »
Stainless, the new kids will not know a F-4 was a fast aircraft :roll: A GS1150 should be a good motor, lots of old drag race part are available.

The real "old school" target is Charlie Toy.

Charlie went over 238 MPH, riding about 1000 cc's of what was essentially
1970's Kawasaki Z1 technology.  He did this using a simple turbo setup having
an air-cooled motor, an "over-the-top" exhaust system in the drag-race style
of late in the last century. 

The "old school" turbo blew directly into an intake manifold
that had more right angle turns than a monopoly board.

NO intercooler.

Bonneville track gasoline was metered through a draw-through carburator for an elderly Harley Davidson.

Careful use of eBay (or Jack Dolan's garage) could probably allow a duplicate of this bike for less than a $5,000 parts budget.

238 MPH for $5,000 is not a bad deal.
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Re: Fastest "Old School" Record
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2007, 01:16:30 PM »
Charlie, that also lives in PHX had all the same HI Tech that Norris sported at the drags.
Norris ran an S+S with NOS though.
How else are you going to get somebody that big to go that fast ?
You guys are enough people to make a gang. :wink:
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