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Offline TAKERRY

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Arm restraints
« on: July 26, 2021, 07:56:20 PM »
Help I'm driving for the 150 club at the World of speed. My arm restraints are made by R.J.S. Racing. They look like stamped metal D rings. No gap. They say spec SFI 3.3. I bought them in 2012 but never used. The manufacture tag is not punched out but I know I got them with all my gear for ECTA. Am I OK.

I made the 130 in 2011 and I've been trying to get back for 10 years. Twice canceled on me. Appreciate any help.
No trailer ran 135mph at the World of Speed 2011 see you in 2012 in Ohio and back at Bonneville at the world of speed going for the 150club 1979 Firebird T/A White . Ck out YOU TUBE. KERRY AT BONNEVILLE. Didn't  make 2012,2013,2014. ECTA in Ohio 2012 trans went out and 2013 fuel problems . Still trans and fuel problems. Finally all looks good. Ready to drive (no trailer) 1500 miles to Bonneville and It's cancelled. NEXT YEAR. SEPT. ECTA RAN 144 MPH. GETTING BETTER. 2021 Ran 152 fulfilled a ten year dream to make the 150 club.

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2021, 08:32:41 PM »
Although I can't find it in the Rule Book now, the word that came out on these a couple of years ago (2018?) said:   

ALL ARM RESTRAINT HARDWARE MUST BE OF A SINGLE PIECE MANUFACTURE. I.E. NO TWO PIECE OR WELDED D-RING STYLE ADJUSTERS. ADJUSTABLE TETHERS SHOULD USE A 3-BAR SYSTEM SIMILAR TO THAT USED IN LAP BELT ADJUSTERS. NON-SEWN IN RESTRAINTS SHALL HAVE A TIGHT FIT AROUND THE NARROWEST PART OF THE ARM. ALL ARM RESTRAINTS MUST BE DEMONSTRATED TO BE EFFECTIVE.

This "3-bar" fastener (looks like a squashed figure eight) is indeed much like the ones used on lap belts, but narrower, since they're typically for 1" (vice 3") wide webbing straps.  They're stamped out of a single piece of metal.   Supposedly, both Stroud and DJ Safety have them, but I couldn't find any pictures in their online catalogs.

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USFRA 130 MPH Club 09/18/2008 136.757
USFRA 150 MPH Club 09/17/2009 152.162
Bonneville 200 MPH Club 09/15/2019 218.600
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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2021, 08:39:41 PM »
Eureka!  It IS still in the Rule Book - Section 3.D.3 on page 35 in the 2021 edition.  Anyway, I doubt if your 2012 arm restraints will cut the mustard.

Jeff in Boise
------------- 1 of just 3 in all 3  -------------
USFRA 130 MPH Club 09/18/2008 136.757
USFRA 150 MPH Club 09/17/2009 152.162
Bonneville 200 MPH Club 09/15/2019 218.600
Best Run: 253.080 MPH 09/14/2019 #6556

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2021, 09:47:39 PM »
The 150 and 130 mph clubs are USFRA classes and use their rules on their website www.saltflats.com.
Might have little in common with SCTA record run rules.

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2021, 07:13:47 AM »
That's true, there are MANY differences.  Arm restraints aren't required for the 130MPH Club.  But the 150MPH Club's requirements include them (or an acceptable window net), and they don't accept the knowingly-defective D-ring type.

Jeff in Boise
------------- 1 of just 3 in all 3  -------------
USFRA 130 MPH Club 09/18/2008 136.757
USFRA 150 MPH Club 09/17/2009 152.162
Bonneville 200 MPH Club 09/15/2019 218.600
Best Run: 253.080 MPH 09/14/2019 #6556

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2021, 03:27:29 PM »
I'm confused- are non-welded D-rings allowed on arm restraints? Or are all D-rings not legal. I have not found anyone who makes any other type.
Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2021, 08:57:48 PM »
I'll try to clear things up.  Arm restraints have two basic parts:  the wide part that actually wraps around your arm, and an adjustable-length strap (typically 1" wide) that connects the wide part to your seat belt release mechanism.  The straps need to be adjusted to the proper length to keep your arms inside the car.

On the old-style (now illegal) type, each strap was threaded through a set of dual D-rings and pulled tight to secure the adjustment length.  However, it was discovered that if enough pressure was applied (e.g. in a high-G crash) the adjustment straps could slip through the dual D-rings, and your arms would then be free. 

With a flat, "3-bar" adjuster (like that used to secure shoulder harnesses when wrapped around a roll bar, but narrower) when the adjustment straps are properly threaded, it's impossible for them to slip and free your arms.

But note that some arm restraints still use single D-rings on the ends of the wide part that goes around your arm.  But that's OK.  They're sewn in place and the adjustment straps just loop through them - they're not used to secure the adjustment straps to length.   Some even employ single sewn-in rings on the ends of the straps that attach to the seat belt release mechanism, and they're OK, too. 

Again, the illegal ones are those which utilize sets of two D-rings to secure the adjustment of the strap length.

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« Last Edit: July 27, 2021, 09:00:41 PM by trimmers »
------------- 1 of just 3 in all 3  -------------
USFRA 130 MPH Club 09/18/2008 136.757
USFRA 150 MPH Club 09/17/2009 152.162
Bonneville 200 MPH Club 09/15/2019 218.600
Best Run: 253.080 MPH 09/14/2019 #6556

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2021, 09:19:13 PM »
Thanks, Jeff. I wish someone would post a list of ones that meet that requirement. Most sources don't understand questions regarding this and their on-line photos are not helpful.
Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2021, 10:05:28 PM »
Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2021, 10:12:51 PM »
Yes.  You can clearly see that both have the flat "3-bar" adjusters instead of dual "D-rings" for securing the strap length.

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USFRA 130 MPH Club 09/18/2008 136.757
USFRA 150 MPH Club 09/17/2009 152.162
Bonneville 200 MPH Club 09/15/2019 218.600
Best Run: 253.080 MPH 09/14/2019 #6556

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2021, 10:20:41 PM »
OK, Jeff- Thanks.
Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2021, 08:59:37 AM »
Three pages in 2017 but does not come up in a search?
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=16979.0
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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2021, 04:13:20 PM »
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=16979.0

The posting by Dr. Spin on the second page of the referenced topic also gives an explanation.   It, too, explains that (single) D-rings may be utilized as an attachment point,  but that (dual) D-rings can't be used for adjustment.   The problem with the welded dual D-rings isn't that the welds are failing, but rather that they're made from round stock, which can allow the straps to pull loose.   That can't happen with the 3-bar adjusters, which are stamped out of flat stock, and won't let the straps slip when properly threaded.

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« Last Edit: July 28, 2021, 04:16:40 PM by trimmers »
------------- 1 of just 3 in all 3  -------------
USFRA 130 MPH Club 09/18/2008 136.757
USFRA 150 MPH Club 09/17/2009 152.162
Bonneville 200 MPH Club 09/15/2019 218.600
Best Run: 253.080 MPH 09/14/2019 #6556

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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2021, 05:19:41 PM »
Just received these from DJ Safety (SCTA approved)


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Re: Arm restraints
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2021, 05:20:25 PM »
out of the bag