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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 02:19:53 PM »
Looks like Circle Track to me, not LSR :?

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 02:51:38 PM »
If the speed can be set on a large circle is it not still LSR?  :evil: :roll: :?

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 03:37:20 PM »
Looks like Circle Track to me, not LSR :?

Dat's one big azz circle :-o
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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 04:07:02 PM »
If the speed can be set on a large circle is it not still LSR?  :evil: :roll: :?

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 04:12:20 PM »
If American A J Foyt can set land speed records on the flat circular track of the Firestone Test Center (Fort Stockton is it?) with the Oldsmobile Aerotech streamliner, then Europeans should be considered legitimate land speed record breakers at Nardo (which is slightly banked). All you have to think of is a concrete Bonneville speedweek track wrapped into a circle. We do not have any European straights of 12km so this is the best we can use. As you will have read most activity is by car makers in total private with no cameras or visitors.

For the mile and kilo records the runs will have to be two way, according to the FIM rules, with no more than 2 hours between them. Duration speed records can use the whole track in one direction.

The danger is in the overheating of tyres when in a constant turn, which apparently is at speeds above 150 mph in the outer lane.

If you want to see a European circle track look up Millbrook High Speed Test Track, Bedfordshire - a 2 mile true circle in the outer lane and you start turning left from speeds over 100 mph. For safety it is only a counterclockwise operation.

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 04:29:37 PM »
Reminds me more of endurance racing, like Ab Jenkens and Mickeys attempts with Ford in the 60s using a circular course.

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 05:08:57 PM »
We do not have any European straights of 12km so this is the best we can use.

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 05:24:02 PM »
Getting back to the pits will be pretty easy.
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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2012, 05:57:51 PM »
How can it be an "annual" event when it has never happened. The first one is the first one...The next can start it to be an annual event.

Will the timing stat after the 4 mile or can you wind it up fo as long an you want looking for the fastest time after 50-100 miles of running?

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 07:04:54 PM »
The first event is called inaugural ... after that it can be an annual event.  This is one big track -- 12 km long is 7 miles and 4 km accross is 2.5 miles ... fastest speed recorded is 241 mph so it can handle speed.   I believe tires will be a problem.

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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2012, 09:15:05 PM »
Dosent the FM/FIA have a spec as far as elevation and grade changes? not sure this track would qualify as a LSR venue.... probably a "closed course" record facility
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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2012, 10:28:54 PM »
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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2012, 11:45:10 PM »
I've been on the Nardo track years ago.  Biggest concern would be suspension loading (g-forces) induced by the banked track itself as well as directly stability (and some downforce required) to stay within the tight confines of the track itself.
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Re: Nardo, Italy 2013
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 05:37:06 PM »

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Is the 9km straight at Ehra-Lessien Europe's longest?

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Yes it is, but I do not know of any independent racer who has been allowed to use it.

Dosent the FM/FIA have a spec as far as elevation and grade changes? not sure this track would qualify as a LSR venue.... probably a "closed course" record facility
kent

As far as I can ascertain there is no elevation change at Nardo outside the FIM rules for a record track for mile and kilo distances.  If it had I am sure the FIM would not have assisted in selecting this course. Distance and endurance record courses that are 'lapped' have different requirements.

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