new 2011 rule changes

[Avanti Kid]

Years ago I replaced my glass lenses for my headlights with plastic lenses, and yes my head lights still have to work.  This should work better than safety film on the original glass lenses. Dave

[dw230]

Ron,

If you replace or cover the headlights with metal it has to meet the minimum requirements for class. Decal not necessary.

Dave,

Lights do not have to work in any class.

DW

[Milwaukee Midget]

Lights do not have to work in any class.

That had been a niggling concern in the back of my head since day one - thanks for that, Dan.  I trust horns need not be functional, either?

[saltfever]

I trust horns need not be functional, either?

That is correct. Pg 46, Paragraph 4.DD spells out street equipment that needs to be in place. However, it fails to mention it all can be non-fuctional.   A rule clarification that is long overdue.

[dw230]

Don't you want to have any fun in impound? Left in that format because you and I need to open the rule book over something. You young guys need too much direction.

DW

[saltfever]

Its more fun to open sumptin with a pop-top. 

[Milwaukee Midget]

Don't you want to have any fun in impound? Left in that format because you and I need to open the rule book over something. You young guys need too much direction.

DW

Speaking of direction - what about the turn signals? 
Dan, I'd love to have a discussion in impound.  That means I would have made it to impound! 

[Queeziryder]

Lights do not have to work in any class.

That had been a niggling concern in the back of my head since day one - thanks for that, Dan.  I trust horns need not be functional, either?

Ah
But Chris, the horn's good for telling people to get out they way before you run them over on the way to impound

Neil

[38flattie]

Thanks Dan, For getting the rulebook wording clarified, and answering all the questions here on the board!

[Avanti Kid]

Yes, Dan thanks for the help!! 

[Dynoroom]

That just means you guys havn't been around long enough to remember that Production & Gas Coupe did require a working horn in the not so distant past....... why else have it in the book....... my, how times change.

Had to honk Geislers in '80 when Stringfellow got in.

[jl222]

That just means you guys havn't been around long enough to remember that Production & Gas Coupe did require a working horn in the not so distant past....... why else have it in the book....... my, how times change.

Had to honk Geislers in '80 when Stringfellow got in.

  And don't forget the horn had to be able to start the engine

           JL222

[jimmy six]

Maybe I read all this wrong, but I can't find anywhere where all this "stuff" needs to work. When I converted my 40 Chevy from Altered to Gas Coupe in 1978 the rule book stated the same as does now. I needed to find a 1940 horn and attach it behind the grillle and search out a pair of fender mounted parking lights to make sure I met the rules for the class but I didn't make anything work. I had to add a front bumper and running boards too. Faked the bumper mounting brackets cause I couldn't find any but as for working I've looked at the latest rule book on pages 68, 69, 73-77 and only that you need them and they be the same year as the car.................................but I could be wrong...........JD

[saltfever]

You are correct JD. Nobody is saying that stuff has to be operational. See my post #333 above. That paragraph has never changed but the issue comes up quite often. It was raised on this forum a couple of years ago. The confusing thing is that it says “. . . required for legal street operation”. Almost all states require stuff to be operational in order to be legal street equipment. Who hasn’t gotten a fix-it ticket. We know the text is just an all-inclusive way of making sure parts are there for aero purposes. Working or not is irrelevant. (Unless you have “wig-wag” turn signals). The decal change was added about 2 years ago and it would have been easy to clarify functionality then. But that would have resulted in a clearly understood rule.

[dw230]

If you need the rule to state "non-functional" or whatever is needed to clarify, submit a change form.

DW