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Offline grumm441

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Re: Australian Belly Tank actual build related content!
« Reply #1200 on: July 28, 2010, 12:39:50 AM »
Well

I picked up the header pipes today from Competition Coatings in Coburg  (shameless new sponsor plug)
They look heaps better, and less rusty. I had them and the underside of the inlet manifold ceramic coated
This should be where i go on about the thermal abilities of the coating, however the real advantage will be
that the coating will not burn off and fill the car with paint fumes unlike the coating previously applied by a nameless individual
G

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1201 on: July 28, 2010, 07:08:06 PM »
Oooooooh - SHINEY!

I think the idea is to go fast enough to leave the stink behind you. :-D

New heads, new rockers, I understand there is a new crank making it's way to Melbourne - This thrash is starting early this year.

Feather - never lift.

Chris

Oh, and Grummy - I've got a used Lucas Sport coil I can send your way - still has all the smoke in it. :cheers:
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Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1202 on: July 28, 2010, 07:36:41 PM »
This should be where i go on about the thermal abilities of the coating, however the real advantage will be
that the coating will not burn off and fill the car with paint fumes unlike the coating previously applied by a nameless individual
G

fair cop, I painted the headers with what I bought as "exhaust paint"...it was only as I finished spraying them that I looked at the can to see that it was vinyl paint , or underpants paint or something like that that had been put on the wrong part of the shelf... :roll:...anyway, it was me that had to sit through it burning off so I dunno what yous are complaining about ...it was a heady mix of something electrical burning out and hair on fire......
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Re: Australian Belly Tank actual build related content!
« Reply #1203 on: July 28, 2010, 07:43:06 PM »
Well

I picked up the header pipes today from Competition Coatings in Coburg  (shameless new sponsor plug)
They look heaps better, and less rusty. I had them and the underside of the inlet manifold ceramic coated
This should be where i go on about the thermal abilities of the coating, however the real advantage will be
that the coating will not burn off and fill the car with paint fumes unlike the coating previously applied by a nameless individual
G

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1204 on: August 03, 2010, 12:59:25 AM »
Progress: I have just ordered the new cam for the motor.....this year we used the VN1365a , a hydraulic cam.......a regrind . This new cam is a solid profile which needs to be ground on a new billet

....of course it's expensive

W A D E   C A M S H A F T S    P  T Y   L T D
     

           Profile          Actuation             Make/Model           R/Ratio
          1644a            Roller Follower Holden V6  3.8              In1.6 Ex 1.6
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Cam Lift   Duration    Duration   Valve   Valve    Lift      Phase
                       Adv           @050     Clr    Lift     tdc        <)
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Intake     361        300        249      0.016    0.5616    113        107
  Exhaust    361        300        249      0.016    0.5616    098
          --------------------------------------------------------------------------

                             Timing                  Timing
                             Adv                    @ 0.05
                          Open      Close        Open      Close
           Exhaust      77 Bbdc     43 Atdc      53 Bbdc   16 Atdc

           Intake       40 Btdc     80 Abdc      19 Btdc    50 Abdc

                                83                  35
                          Deg Over-lap        Deg Over-lap

                 Intake Centreline  105.5        Exhaust Centreline  108.5


what it does mean is we have the ability now to build a lower comp(8.5:1) 3litre version of the motor we ran this year as we are hanging on to all the parts we have used thus far.....the full size version will have the new cam, solid lifters, roller tip/roller rockers 9.6:1 and the stage three heads I have bought this year.........

Yeah, I know, It's about time we broke something............ :roll:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1205 on: August 03, 2010, 01:06:32 AM »
Dr Googs, if u are gonna break it, at least run fast enough to qualify against the existing record.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1206 on: August 03, 2010, 02:09:51 AM »
Dr Googs, if u are gonna break it, at least run fast enough to qualify against the existing record.
FREUD

Hey Ferd, if you mean Jack Kelly's that won't be this year.....but if you're talkin' about the local record then I'll be running right past it, straight up....... bigger cam, better heads........ I'm getting ahead of meself.............
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1207 on: August 07, 2010, 03:26:33 AM »
I got the 181ci crankshaft that I bought from Sandusky Ohio today....it came courtesy of Milwaukee Freight Forwarders , much thanks to the Milwaukee Midget and his burgeoning business.

I've given it a look over and it seems it is identical except that the rod journals are a little smaller. We need longer rods , the comp yet to be decided...I'd like to get it internally balanced and some nice rods and pistons .....if we get it to rev to 8000.... :-D



I spoke to the guy who ground the cam we used this year and he told us if we ran .008 clearance on the valves we could run solid lifters on it, so that cam will go into the 181.We'll use the heads from this years motor too. I took the heads that I bought recently with me when I went and saw the guy who is going to modify the LS-1 adjustable roller rockers I bought (via Milwaukee Freight Forwarders of course) and he gave them the thumbs up , saying he hadn't seen many jobs on these models of quite the same consistency , liked the chamber work and said the guy who did the ports must've wrecked a few before he got that good on the exhausts, as there isn't much meat in a few spots on the stock casting.So that was good to hear.

On another front I finally got the motor out and put it on a trolley. That meant I could put the car on the high stands and take the front tub off....as I got it outside I noticed it was bashed in under the nose....it must have been when I got airborne on the last run, looks like its taken a bit of force, the car didn't mind it a bit at the time..(shook me up a bit) so it was a good sign. Under the skin at that point the 1/4 inch floor turns up a little like a canoe so even if it did open the body up...or as we planned it for the suspension collapsing or a wheel going AWOL  it doesn't have any way of digging in.
Few understand what I'm trying to do but they vastly outnumber those who understand why...................

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Current Australian E/GL record holder at 215.041mph

THE LUCKIEST MAN IN SLOW BUSINESS.

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1208 on: August 07, 2010, 11:53:55 PM »
A little editing of the novella -


I got the 181ci crankshaft that I bought from Sandusky Ohio today....it came courtesy of Milwaukee Freight Forwarders , much thanks to the Milwaukee Midget and his burgeoning business.


. . . the wry Australian said, in a humorous attempt to implicate the little beer boy in a vast international autoparts smuggling syndicate that clearly doesn't exist:wink:

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1209 on: August 12, 2010, 10:36:20 AM »
Not much happening in Wendover at 8:30am on a Thursday
So Goggs what are you doing right now
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1210 on: August 12, 2010, 11:01:57 AM »
Hey Grumm. I'll be therethis afternoon sometime. Look for a P-38 Belly Tank in the back of my pickup. Wayno

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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1211 on: August 12, 2010, 11:04:41 PM »
Not much happening in Wendover at 8:30am on a Thursday
So Goggs what are you doing right now
G

Must've had a premonition...came here to see if you posted or to get the web-line for your p'bucket and ...well here you are

Boy oh boy do I wish I was there right now....for the obvious, and not so obvious reasons...work is heeeeelllllllllllll.........

OK you are the ambassador for the SOS team , I'm sure you'll do us proud.....be a good boy and wear your lip balm, that cracked lip you had at Gairdner was painful to look at... give my email address to anyone you see with a tank for the Think Tank forum..., The Rev's great flyer was about a week too late...

Now,
To all at Speedweek, If you see Grumm with two empty hands, do the right thing ...and
GIVE 'IM A BEER :cheers:
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1212 on: August 12, 2010, 11:25:53 PM »
This being AFD3. 
Goggs, email me so I can get your address
On my phone.
Wayno. I'm in motorcycle tech probably
Until Saturday. Me in m/c tech on a salt
Lake! Who would have thought.
Well at least they have shade here
G
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1213 on: August 12, 2010, 11:26:59 PM »
Not much happening in Wendover at 8:30am on a Thursday
So Goggs what are you doing right now
G
You lucky , lucky b*star* grumm, the closest I can get to a whiteout is perving on my plaster voodoo wingtank nose mould in the sun.
wattayagonnabuild now ?
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Re: Australian Belly Tank
« Reply #1214 on: August 12, 2010, 11:37:58 PM »
A garage
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