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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2011, 04:51:58 AM »
He was a mechanical genius way before his time. If only more of us could have had the chance to learn from him. I like guys like him. That push the boundries and end up with mechanical genius. I just wish more guys were around here like him for me to learn from. Everything I learned I had do by pulling parts and really trying to figure it out. He would have been a great teacher, and the things he did were amazing.
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Offline triumphrpm bigdcycle@att.

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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2011, 08:42:26 AM »
When Jess Thomas's   500SF record was broken a couple years ago they just moved that bike into the 500SPF class. Still holds the record from 1957.
Only way to get Burt out of the record books is build a vintage pushrod 1000cc streamliner and take all three records. It would take a big pile of money to get that done.
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2011, 08:49:17 AM »
Quote from: DocBeech on May 14, 2011, 04:51:58 AM
He was a mechanical genius way before his time. If only more of us could have had the chance to learn from him. I like guys like him. That push the boundries and end up with mechanical genius. I just wish more guys were around here like him for me to learn from. Everything I learned I had do by pulling parts and really trying to figure it out. He would have been a great teacher, and the things he did were amazing.

Doc, if you are looking to meet a guy like that introduce yourself to Jack Costella.... You will find him around the Nebulous pits, probably without the 5050 this year
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2011, 09:48:01 AM »
   




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                                              TOP SPEED 207 MPH
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2011, 10:31:51 AM »
...one of the major differences between Burt and Jack is that Burt didnt
go fast enough to get banned.....and Burts vehicle didnt handle as well as Jacks........

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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2011, 10:52:56 AM »
 :cheers: lol
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2011, 12:30:56 PM »
I do not see in the rule book where you can not run a push rod engine in the SC 1000cc class. 
If records are going to be retired or made sacred, what will be the criteria? Also every record in the book was set over an existing record or in an "Open Record". Since they just renamed Jess's record, did 7070 run on an "Open Record" when Jack and Cliff ran 230.165?
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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2011, 11:59:19 PM »
But I can't promise to return 5050 to him if the adrenaline rush is high enough. It might dissappear and go in to hiding :P
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2011, 12:11:52 AM »
Quote from: joea on May 14, 2011, 10:31:51 AM
...one of the major differences between Burt and Jack is that Burt didnt
go fast enough to get banned.....and Burts vehicle didnt handle as well as Jacks........



Also, Bert was a competitor in an era when, if Jack brought 5050,...... it would NOT have got a "sticker" put on it.....
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2011, 12:15:15 PM »
Quote from: joea on May 14, 2011, 10:31:51 AM
...one of the major differences between Burt and Jack is that Burt didnt
go fast enough to get banned.....and Burts vehicle didnt handle as well as Jacks........



As I remember Burt's set up got legislated aside when it couldn't meet new requirements about '72 for a roll bar/cage and fire protection in the streamliner classes.

Please correct me if I'm in error, it's been awhile and I'll admit to my mind getting twisted now and again.

Ed
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2011, 06:01:17 PM »
If I recall correctly, it was 1973..... he ran the bike as an open frame for a run or two..... I also recall that they gave him the first run of the event honor.
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2011, 07:51:37 PM »
In 1973  at Bonneville , Sam Pierce, LA Indian dealer and Munro sponsor rode his Harley killer while Burt rode his Indian open wheeled.
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2011, 11:29:27 AM »
Quote from: Gu11ett on May 14, 2011, 12:30:56 PM
I do not see in the rule book where you can not run a push rod engine in the SC 1000cc class. 
If records are going to be retired or made sacred, what will be the criteria? Also every record in the book was set over an existing record or in an "Open Record". Since they just renamed Jess's record, did 7070 run on an "Open Record" when Jack and Cliff ran 230.165?

No 7070 ran on a 50 year old record and did a tremendous job capturing the record. I think the SCTA moved Jess's record to the pushrod class tp pay homage to one of the pioneers of landracing. That is one of the things I like about the SCTA. They are so very much aware of their history and show respect to all that have come racing before us.
You can run a 1000cc pushrod in 1000SF. If you did  set the record would they not move the Munroe record to the vintage class?  Build bike,set 1000SVF record first. Move to the pushrod class and set record. Bump up to 1000SF and beat Burt's record. He is out of the book. What are the chances of that happening?
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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2011, 11:44:15 AM »
...Records are made to be broken....!!!!!!!

..not saved....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...the "history" will never be broken....




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Re: Burt Munro and 200mph ??
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2011, 04:47:04 PM »
Burt Monroe's last time on the salt was Speedweek 1971. He had planned to return in 1972, but his health disallowed it. I got to know Burt fairly well over the years (1962 through 1971) I admired his ability to "Make Do" (his much used expression) and accomplish what he did, designing, developing and making his own parts. As much as many would like, he did not officially exceed 200 mph. I don't think anyone could be extremely proud to take his record with the technology of today.

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