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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #750 on: November 05, 2011, 02:11:03 PM »
Rich, I'm trying to find something like what your talking about, but no luck so far.

Trent, I'm talking about using something like that. One fender, though, won't cover the tire sufficiently- it will take two grafted together.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #751 on: November 05, 2011, 02:32:28 PM »

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #752 on: November 05, 2011, 02:34:48 PM »
Rich, I'm trying to find something like what your talking about, but no luck so far.

Trent, I'm talking about using something like that. One fender, though, won't cover the tire sufficiently- it will take two grafted together.

That was just the first one I found in a search. there are several variations and the glass types like Rich posted. Shop around, price and quality vary.  :cheers:

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #753 on: November 05, 2011, 02:37:58 PM »
Also a search for wheel spats got some interesting hits


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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #754 on: November 07, 2011, 06:54:54 PM »
It may not seem like it, but there is still lots going on with the build.

Pinkees is building the side panels.

Russ Meeks has the pistons, wrist pins, and valves, for coating. He also has the front plate, and top girdle, for Cermachrome.

Dale is polishing the head chambers, so that we can send them to Russ.

I've been trying to figure out some wheel cover/fenders, and an axle spat, for aero.

I've also been talking to Dema Elgin, about a roller cam. The older Harley solid rollers will work for us. This pic is a Sportster lifter I'm using for mockup. If we end up needing it to be a little longer, the pan/shovel lifter will work, and has the same diameter-.730

I had a lifter block, that had been repaired, so I sacrificed it for a mockup part. I didn't have anything in a .732 diameter, like I wanted, so I drilled it out with a .750 drill bit, and notched it with a chop saw. Rough and crude, but it will work for now.

We will need a 'plate', along the bottom of the lifter block, that will be notched, to act as lifter 'guides'. I notched this one, top make it easy to get in and out, and to use for a 'baseline'. I'll send it to Dale, and he can install it with the racing cam, and get final measurements. It won't be exact, as a new cam must still come from Dema, but it will work!

I'll take the final measurements, and the good lifter blocks, and get them altered to suit our needs.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #755 on: November 29, 2011, 12:03:28 AM »
Woody is going to do some flow simulations for us, so I messed around trying to get the ports molded tonight.

The intake came out good, but I'll need to do the exhaust again- this foam stuff is a PITA!

These are from the #8 cylinder- you can see how flow restricted it is at the valve guide. Dale will do the race engine, and all the molds will then go to Woody.
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #756 on: November 29, 2011, 12:28:33 AM »
Nice thing about a flathead is that you don't have the side loads on the valves that a rocker brings to the table.

I suspect that if you hog it out and go with some bullet nosed bronze guides, and straighten the ports out as best you can, you should be golden.

I've seen foam port molds like this, but I never knew what you use to make 'em with.

What is that stuff?
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #757 on: November 29, 2011, 12:37:25 AM »
Chris, it's called FlexFoam-it X, by Smooth on. It's a pliable, 10lb foam.

My long term plan to 'straighten' out the ports, is in post #706, page 48- I'm simply going to have the 90 deg turn milled off of the block,port the bejeebers out of it, and weld a new intake/exhaust flange back in place.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #758 on: November 29, 2011, 12:43:47 AM »
C I'm simply going to have the 90 deg turn milled off of the block,port the bejeebers out of it, and weld a new intake/exhaust flange back in place.


Buddy, I am glad you don't have a week heart.   :cheers:  I cant wait to see it run!  Tony
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #759 on: November 29, 2011, 12:51:37 AM »
... My long term plan to 'straighten' out the ports, is in post #706...
Looking at post#706, I would have said that you've removed 45` of the original 135`, leaving a nominal 90` port runner. What am I missing?
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #760 on: November 29, 2011, 01:00:29 AM »
Haha! Tony, I'm just not smart enough to quit flogging this worthless pony!

I should just get busy with the Jimmy, and make some real horsepower.

 :roll:...I keep looking at those IH Black Diamond engines- they have some serious promise- ever really looked at one?


... My long term plan to 'straighten' out the ports, is in post #706...
Looking at post#706, I would have said that you've removed 45` of the original 135`, leaving a nominal 90` port runner. What am I missing?

Nothing Jack- you're correct. I won't be able to totally straighten out the ports with milling- it will take some porting, epoxy, and even then, it won't be perfect.

I do expect a dramatic flow difference, though. Only one way to find out......
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #761 on: November 29, 2011, 01:09:25 AM »
Haha! Tony, I'm just not smart enough to quit flogging this worthless pony!

If we were smart we would find another drug that has a cure.  There is no cure for salt fever. Tony
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #762 on: November 29, 2011, 10:43:54 AM »
I have looked at Red Diamonds. I wonder about the new rule concerning "Engines that ran at El Mirage" Is this a ploy to out maneuver the 'Binder?

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #763 on: November 29, 2011, 04:47:58 PM »
Finished the exhaust mold today,( black is intake, white is exhaust),and mailed them off to Woody. I'm very curious to see what his model tell us.

Dale did extensive port work in the constricted area, and that port work, along with the huffer, is what we are banking on!

 I also went to Pinkees, to check on the panels Erik is making. They will be done tomorrow or the next day! We had to give up a little aero, to be able to mount fenders, if we wish. I'm thrilled with how they turned out!

Gotta go pack for work now!
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

http://www.flatcadracing.org/
http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #764 on: November 29, 2011, 05:20:23 PM »
Looking good my friend!