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Offline Rex Schimmer

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #510 on: July 30, 2011, 11:18:10 AM »
Buddy,
I certainly agree with everyone else, you are doing the right thing. You have to get the Cad on a dyno and do some development work on it so that you are ready when you show up at Bonneville. You have way to much time and money invested to blow it up at the salt because you couldn't get it on the dyno, and if you don't make the WOS you still have the BNIs in October. Don't rush it. Still looking forward to seeing you even with a SBC in the car.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #511 on: July 30, 2011, 12:46:37 PM »
38flattie.......You are indeed fortunate that Rex has taken an interest in your bullet.

Listen closely to him.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #512 on: July 30, 2011, 01:18:58 PM »
Believe me, Freud, I will!

...and I realize how fortunate I am that so many have taken an interest, and offered advice! Thanks everyone!
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #513 on: August 02, 2011, 09:21:34 AM »
Even though we're doing a heart transplant for SpeedWeek - putting in a SBC motor so we can shakedown the car, the drivers, get some licenses, drink some beer and have some fun (in no particular order, we're keeping the FlatCad work moving forward for WOS.

1) Adding Studs to the Deck: We wanted to add studs to provide additional clamping force for the heads. The FlatCad motor has come fairly large 'gaps' in the stud locations around the bore - so we're adding our own (obviously they're in the head designs). The best way to add the additional studs on the deck surface (we've added 7 per side), the block needs to be setup in a mill.

2) Valve Seat/Pocket Work: Also, while the block is in there, we need to do the valve seat cutter work. The valve angles on the FlatCad are about 6 degrees off of square (angled toward the bore), so it requires some special mounting blocks to set the valve angle. Fowler made the big aluminum blocks for the valve work - to get the block exactly right in the mill - you'll see them at the bottom of the picture.

3) Intake Girdle Plate Studs: You can't see it in this picture, but we're also adding five 3/8 studs (on each side) to hold the intake girdle and exhaust flange plate down. The plate is 3/4" steel and will hopefully provide some strength to the top of the block and it gives us a much cleaner way to setup the blower manifold, exhaust primary headers, etc..


4) New timing cover plate: Here is the new timing cover plate Dale designed, and Kevin is making for us.


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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #514 on: August 03, 2011, 10:12:16 AM »
Headers are back from being coated for 2000 degrees. We wanted silver, but had to settle for black with the rush job.
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #515 on: August 03, 2011, 11:16:42 AM »
Progress continues- The timing cover plate is done!
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #516 on: August 03, 2011, 07:58:47 PM »
You know, Buddy, if you're not careful, you might just have that Flatty ready and have to pull the small block! :-D

You're working a wise plan - see you in a few weeks.

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #517 on: August 10, 2011, 12:17:27 PM »
Well, the car is as done as it will get, until after Speedweek! The SBC runs, all the bolts are tight, so in the trailer and off to the salt she goes!

I left Dale's Monday night, and the thrash continued! I hadn't been home for 5 weeks, so I needed to get home for a bit. I'm going to lay low at Speedweek, and save myself for WOS. I'll be at Speedweek for the opening weekend, then home home for some family time.

There was definitely some drama, with the clutch fork, driveline, rear end, and redo's, but progress was quick and neat. Swapping the FlatCad in will be fairly straight forward, and painless.

Unfortunately, we didn't get the bellypan on, or the car on scales. Licensing runs won't be fast enough to matter, but we will get these done before WOS!

Dale and Amy- Thanks for opening up your house and shop for us to complete this! You both are exceptional people and hosts, and the stay was great!

Mark and Chris- without Mark's incredible eagle eye, and Chris's attention to design detail, we wouldn't be headed to the salt. Thanks guys!

 Pete- thanks man! You're engine is in the car- see you this weekend!
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #518 on: August 10, 2011, 04:51:16 PM »
Everyone has been very helpful, and free with advice- Thanks! I sure hope to meet as many of you as I can.

If you get some free time at B'ville, give me a shout!

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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #519 on: August 13, 2011, 12:03:23 AM »
Well, were on the salt!



We didn't get the car done, and had a choice to make- stay home and finish it, or finish it on the salt.We elected to finish it on the salt, so we spent the day thrashing on the car. We'll hit tech tomorrow, and see how we fare.

Today I met Rich Fox, Maguromic,  Rex Schimmer, and Tman. Rex said Sparky was running around somewhere, so tomorrow I'm going to try and find him and Rex.

Rich is our pushtruck driver, so we're going to try and out him to work tomorrow!

Here's a few pics from today's thrash!
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #520 on: August 13, 2011, 08:50:22 AM »
Awsome ,you better post lots of pic's! :-D   :cheers:
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #521 on: August 13, 2011, 11:05:12 PM »
We did the driver's meeting, and rookie orientation this morning, so my helmut now sports a rookie sticker!

We thrashed all day, and finally got in line for tech. We should tech first thing in the morning, and get a rookie run in tomorrow afternnon, weather permitting. There is a 40% chance of rain tonight, but we ain't scared!

Met up with Stan Back today, and Doug for the Saltcat. Doug had just broke his engine. I'm not sure who was more disapointed- Him because he broke it, or me, because I really wanted to see the car run!

Sorry, but this is the only way I know how to post pics!
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #522 on: August 13, 2011, 11:08:19 PM »
a few more
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #523 on: August 13, 2011, 11:09:19 PM »
Last pic is Rich Fox pushing us to tech!
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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http://youtu.be/89rVb497_4c

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #524 on: August 13, 2011, 11:11:56 PM »
Great pictures!

Good luck tomorrow!   :cheers:

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