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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1005 on: March 15, 2012, 10:08:23 PM »
Thanks everyone!

Woody, either thumb? Dammit- I thought it said BOTH thumbs, and I did! :-D

What a wasted day, today was!

Rodger and I looked over the crashbox, measured several times, and commenced to modifying the tranny cross member. Finished it, so we slipped it in the car.

What the hell? The tranny tail shaft is 2" high, and won't set down on the crossmember! Long story short, this tranny doesn't fit the car! The mount on the tranny sits the tail shaftup about 1-1/2 inches higher than the Muncie. That, added to the fact that the shifter is going to take a LOT of work, to fit in the car, was enough for me.

So, I decided that another Muncie is in the future. That meant, of course, that we had to modify' the crossmember, to the way it was when we started. If anyone has a good Rock Crusher, and wants a nice crashbox, please let me know!

We loaded the car on the trailer, and I took it to Pinkees, where they are going to finish the clutch setup, and the throttle cable, while I'm at work.

Here's a couple of better pics, of the engine in the car, and the car on the trailer, headed to Pinkees.

Next up-a new radiator in a box water system.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 10:09:59 PM by 38flattie »
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1006 on: March 15, 2012, 10:30:57 PM »
38flattie, Looking at your pictures. It looks like there is alot of aluminum between the blower and the engine. Will you have to allow for vertical growth on your blower belt tension?
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1007 on: March 16, 2012, 09:48:48 AM »
Should work like an auto tensioner....
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1008 on: March 16, 2012, 01:45:49 PM »
38flattie, Looking at your pictures. It looks like there is alot of aluminum between the blower and the engine. Will you have to allow for vertical growth on your blower belt tension?
Richard

Richard, between the engine and blower, is an alumium intake, and on top of that, an aluminum 'chiller'. Since the chiller has ice water circulating through it, cooling the intake charge, I really don't see much 'growth' happening there-at least that's my theory at this point!

Should work like an auto tensioner....

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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1009 on: March 17, 2012, 09:40:12 PM »
Ok, here's the last progress report from me, until next days off.

I moved the water tank from the front of the car, to the back. I bought a Ron Davis radiator from Rex Schimmer, and decided to build a radiator in a box. Yes, I know it's not custom aluminum, and I know it's bigger than I need(28 gallons), but it serves 3 functions, and it's time to get the car finished!

First, the obvious-a radiator in a box. Secondly, I have an electric pump, pumping water to the mechanical pump, through 1" lines, so I'll plumb a bypass around the mechanical pump, so that it can act as a heat exchanger, if the engine gets hot. Lastly, I need the weight, and it sure helps in that department!

It has a 1/2" wide, and 1/2 deep lip around the perimeter, filled with silicone, to seal the removable lid. I think all we will need is water, but the lid comes off to remove the radiator, or add ice if we need.

Next up, dyno headers by Dale!  :-D
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1010 on: March 18, 2012, 01:09:34 AM »
I don't think Rex had that radiator up for 5 minutes and you scooped it. 

Sometimes the expedient is the right answer.

Make it so, and make it go. 
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1011 on: March 18, 2012, 04:32:24 PM »
Just a note: I do have one more like the one Buddy has and two 15 x 15 x3-1/2 double pass units still in my "stock"

$150 each. nice pieces!

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1012 on: March 23, 2012, 11:59:16 AM »
Well, the end is finally in sight! We've had plenty of excuses on why we've been delayed, but no more!

I'm at work, and Pinkees is finishing the pedal/clutch setup, throttle setup, and fuel shutoff. Dale is doing the dyno headers, looking for the 'lost' rear end yoke, and designing blower restraint hold downs.

When I get home,I'm pulling the engine and heading to Chico, to see John Beck. After the dyno. I'm headed to Don's shop, to adjust the adapter/bellhousing, for a proper tranny shaft alignment, then home to reinstall the engine/tranny.

I need to get the driveshaft length corrected, for this new combo, and the water and oil all plumbed in.

The following days off, I'll get all the electrical wired, do the SCTA inspection, so that I'm ready for El Mirage, load the car, and head west!

No excuses this time!
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1013 on: March 23, 2012, 12:21:12 PM »

The following days off, I'll get all the electrical wired, do the SCTA inspection, so that I'm ready for El Mirage, load the car, and head west!

No excuses this time!


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Go West, young man, Go Go!"


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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1014 on: March 25, 2012, 07:25:31 AM »
Buddy, in your trip to Beck's if you come out I-70 don't forget to stop at my place. Wayno

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1015 on: March 27, 2012, 05:25:21 PM »
Wayno, I'll be coming through on April 10th. I won't have much time, but I'm honored by the invite, and could stop for an hour or two.

I would expect that it will be around 10 AM or so, when I get there. Wanna PM me a number and address?
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1016 on: March 27, 2012, 06:09:38 PM »
PM sent. You'll like it here.  :-D Wayno

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1017 on: March 27, 2012, 06:27:13 PM »
If your going to use a Muncie consider a Supercase and tail housing along with the cast iron mid plate. We installed one in our dirt car. They also have an overdrive for them, don't know the strength on that.

The main difference between a M20 and 21 is the shaft on the cluster. The M22 is best but is harder to shift and can take 700 HP on the street. Best price I found was $1775 all new and no core charge. Thats a 1000 under a Tex or Jerico. That's what the box stores get for a T-10 and they are not as strong. I should have started with one instead of rebuilding my old one 3 times with broken aluminum....Good luck
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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1018 on: March 28, 2012, 11:00:26 AM »
Wayno-I got your PM. Sounds like a good time!
 
JD, where did you find the Supercase for $1775? Is that with the 26T input spline?
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: XXO/BVGC '38 Chevy Coupe Build
« Reply #1019 on: March 28, 2012, 11:04:54 AM »
Buddy, This is where my friend bought his http://www.tbtrans.com/muncie_4_speed.htm Tony
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