Wild Ride at 240 mph

[landracing]

List Al Booton sent me this link.

http://www.svspower.com

Very good video to show course conditions at Bonneville this year on a bumpy 240 mph ride...

Very good video, watch close after the 4 mile he almost looses it, and before that moves all over course, almost takes out a cone etc etc.
Very exciting.

When page loads look in center of page for the image link to video.

Thanks Al for the link.
Jon

[John Noonan]

Awesome, I wish the sound would have worked..

[landracing]

Sound worked for me...

I would make sure widows media player opens the video..

Jon

[John Noonan]

Sound worked for me...

I would make sure widows media player opens the video..

Jon

Hmmmm,

Thanks,

J

[JackD]

That is a Berkeley alright. I can tell by the color.
There are other colors that indicate the course conditions.

[sickracer]

My back still hurt's from Bville    

[JackD]

My back still hurt's from Bville    

Black, Blue, and brown are the predominant colors to check for.
 Way White would be seen around the face and knuckles. The "Pie Eyes" would be red..

[Wayne Brown]

Just tkink if he had suspention! Makes you think doesent it?

[jackson]

Bonner's car is front wheel drive too!  Does that help or hurt?  I know my many rental cars never tried to swap ends like that in the snow.  But, I wasn't driving a 1200 Hp car at 250 mph.  I remember a Healy at Speed Week running as a streamliner had a hard crash 3 or 4 years ago that was FWD.  Common sense leads me to believe that FWD would be easier to keep straight. Does anyone have any insight on this?

[John Burk]

Front wheels with more negative offset  would help the handling of Bonner's Berkley . He realized that too late and now they wont fit . On a front wheel drive car if the C/L of the tire is outside the steering axis the thrust trys to make the wheels toe in . If one  tire gets more traction for a second the car wants to dart the other way . The rougher the salt the more the car darts around .

[promachine]

When he moved out to the center of the coarse between the 4 and
the 5 you can see the railroad tracks. I don`t think to many cars
are gonna stay nice and straight on that ca ca. It looks like he was
searching for some good salt so he could hammer down, but it wasn`t
there. Nobody should have been running on that crap!

[Stroker]

One ride on a snowy rutted freeway in my FWD Turbo Audi explained why they came out with Quattro.
Front wheel drive and rutted surfaces combined with the effects of torque steer make for a wild ride. All the forces are acting against you.
When you get 'em spinning, it's even more fun.
It definitely lets you call BS on the whole "front wheel drive is better on slippery surfaces than rear wheel" Tain't so. If you spin the rear wheels you slow down and still have steering capability, and about 70% of your braking. When you spin the front wheels,you lose all of that.
If you practice rotational braking in a RWD car you get a 360 deg view of your surroundings. A FWD will fling you off the face of the earth.
A 4WD Audi, is another story altogether. They work pretty well.

[JackD]

The FWD Sprint Car won't work ?

[Stroker]

Jack, my opinion is purely subjective, based on driving 2 vitually identical 200+hp cars, one with 4WD and one with FWD in winter conditions, and a little online conversation with the Audi community. Suffice it to say I kept the 4WD.
I'd guess a FWD sprint car might work pretty well on paved ovals, but could turn into a monster on a rutted dirt track.
You'll recall that, for a time in the 60s, the FWD cars, Minis,Citroens, Saabs et al, were the ones to beat in World Rallying. Now all the players are 4WD.
In regard to LSR, I think ergonomics might be a deciding factor. Making a drivers compartment big enough to house those big brass danglys could be a real issue.<G>

[JackD]

The FWD sprint car was a joke.
I am quite aware of the various characteristics and you are correct.
Each configuration has it's own merits and faults.
We have FWD.AWD,and RWD race cars in the family and LSR records with all of them.