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Offline RichFox

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #165 on: December 30, 2011, 07:31:50 PM »
Zenon will post better pictures. But for those who can't wait

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #166 on: December 30, 2011, 07:44:17 PM »
I like it !    John

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #167 on: December 30, 2011, 07:48:38 PM »
Rich -

Thanks for assuaging our impatience.

Shooting for August?
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #168 on: December 30, 2011, 09:51:34 PM »
Expect it will be done before August but am planning on WoS.

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #169 on: December 30, 2011, 10:33:44 PM »
A whole bunch of pics from today

When I showed up at Rich's house he had already moved the engine off the engine stand. He also installed the gilmer drive on the damper. Rich is a master at reusing bits that are around his shop. The gilmer drive pulley is from the Lotus engine he ran. ( in the 80's?) I don't think I actually snapped a good shot of it but we will see.







Bellhousing/blowshield with trans installed for fitting, we installed once with the flywheel/cltch off so we could double check how far the Trans input shaft was going into the pilot bearing. Checked out OK, forward with assembly.



Assembly, bellhousing plate and flywheel



Friction plate and clutch



Throwout bearing and fork





The pinto trans is very light, I picked it up while standing over it and after a couple trys everything slid together, here is a blurry pic of Rich putting in bolts



Then Yoda lifted the motor so we could admire it, no actually we just used the lift since apparently Yoda didn't actually come to help out today.





Rich taking a rest and admiring his handiwork





I spent some time cleaning the roadster, Rich asked why I was wiping off all his Muroc dust. Also just some shots of the roadster.















Back to work! Tight fit!





Getting close





We removed some of the oil lines, the primer pump was in the way. That is okay though, it comes off.



We were a little worried about the original starter bump hitting the steering box, that does not come off!



step back and ponder



Transmission lined up with/slipped onto drive shaft and we were actually 1/4" past the mount bolt lining up! Hard to see the shaft in the pic



Will come back next year to finish



Started bulge clears steering box just fine!



We will need to work on the clutch fork, it hits the frame, and will probably hit the firewall before engaging the clutch. Yeah yeah, a problem for next year



Just a peek at the clutch slave cylinder



That is all for now, have a happy and safe New Years Eve!!!!!!






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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #170 on: December 30, 2011, 11:16:38 PM »
Expect it will be done before August but am planning on WoS.

Good call.  I will see you there!  :cheers:
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #171 on: December 31, 2011, 06:07:04 AM »
That's looking great!

You going to take a video when you fire it up? :-D
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #172 on: December 31, 2011, 09:53:14 AM »
No video.

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #173 on: December 31, 2011, 09:57:28 AM »
I think if you videoed it in Super 8, it would remain in the vintage class.  I'll have to check the rule book.

Looking great guys!

Happy New Year  :cheers:
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #174 on: December 31, 2011, 10:25:03 AM »

We will need to work on the clutch fork, it hits the frame, and will probably hit the firewall before engaging the clutch. Yeah yeah, a problem for next year

Just a peek at the clutch slave cylinder


We use a Howe internal hydraulic throwout bearing.  I know, not old school, but you already have the clutch master cylinder.  Just a thought.
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1928 Dodge Brothers Vintage Flathead Four Cylinder Roadster & Lakester

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2009 V4F/STR 115.681
2009 V4F/GR 116.439
2009 V4F/FR 117.597
2010 V4F/BSTR 127.352
2012 V4F/BFMR 130.843
2013 V4F/BGMR 142.956
2013 V4F/BFMR 143.254
2013 V4F/BGR 138.395
2013 V4F/BFR 138.984

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #175 on: December 31, 2011, 11:06:04 AM »
has AN fittings also  :-o
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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #176 on: December 31, 2011, 12:20:58 PM »
My camera takes video, I will video the engine firing. I am going to bring a six pack that day. :cheers:

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #177 on: December 31, 2011, 01:58:34 PM »
Thanks Zenndog! :cheers:
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925

You can't make a race horse out of a pig. But if you work hard enough at it you can make a mighty fast pig. - Bob Akin

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #178 on: January 01, 2012, 03:40:18 PM »
Dodge didn't make an OHV. M&B did. Along with Roof and maybe others. My engine is close to the "Fast Four" but mine has the early, stupid, single port intake. And the early, neat, aux-drive for the distributer instead of through the head and the round bellhousing flange, starter mount instead of the later cut off end of the block like a 235 Chevy or something. Mine is like a 292 Chevy. The head is a little strange by todays standards. And I had a lot of ideas for running a flathead. But I have it so I'm going to run it.

The next time we are chatting I would like to hear your flat head ideas Rich. Z

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Re: V4 Dodge
« Reply #179 on: January 01, 2012, 04:04:26 PM »

We will need to work on the clutch fork, it hits the frame, and will probably hit the firewall before engaging the clutch. Yeah yeah, a problem for next year

Just a peek at the clutch slave cylinder


We use a Howe internal hydraulic throwout bearing.  I know, not old school, but you already have the clutch master cylinder.  Just a thought.
I believe a less expensive fix than the hydraulic throw out would be to insert a spacer between the fulcrum and the bell housing. Thereby moving the throw out arm closer to the pressure plate fingers and into a more correct position.