I've gotta thread/jack for just a minute. Ray, you mention that Google Maps says it's 11 hours for the trip. I use MapQuest, not GM. but -- is there a way on either of those - or any other mapping/route planning site that allows the user to enter realistic estimates of what speed he'll go? I know how fast I average on a trip - and I'd prefer to use my speed, not an assumption by whomever writes the program, to find out how long it'll take. other variables would be nice to be user-programmed, too. Thanks -- back to the 'liner. PM or maybe, if you've got good information, we'll start a new thread.