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Offline Tzoom

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New technology?
« on: February 25, 2009, 11:11:16 PM »
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Re: New technology?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2009, 11:26:35 PM »
The scanner is 3k, what is the printer??  Never knew that existed.  It is REALLY cool.  Thanks for the link.
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Re: New technology?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2009, 11:49:21 PM »
The scanner is 3k, what is the printer??  Never knew that existed.  It is REALLY cool.  Thanks for the link.

They didn't give that price.  I imagine there was a good reason like none of us could afford it anyway.


(I just went to the Dimensionprinter website.  The price on the top model is $29,900.  They have a small 'desktop' model for $14,900.)
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Re: New technology?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2009, 01:52:02 AM »
The scanner is 3k, what is the printer??  Never knew that existed.  It is REALLY cool.  Thanks for the link.

They didn't give that price.  I imagine there was a good reason like none of us could afford it anyway.


(I just went to the Dimensionprinter website.  The price on the top model is $29,900.  They have a small 'desktop' model for $14,900.)

My guess was 25k.   It is some really neat technology.  I will have to check out their site.  THANKS!
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Re: New technology?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2009, 02:01:27 AM »
I don't think you really need the printer unless you are making a plug for molds for cast parts.  Machined parts would use the data from the computer program for the CNC mill or lathe.

I emailed the scanner maker with a question.  That being if you only have the part you want to replace to use for the scan and it's worn won't the end product be a part that meets the out-of-tolerance dimensions and not the actual dimensions you want?  Why replace a worn ring gear with a 'worn' ring gear.  I hope to get an answer tomorrow. 
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Re: New technology?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2009, 09:30:59 AM »
..........I emailed the scanner maker with a question.  That being if you only have the part you want to replace to use for the scan and it's worn won't the end product be a part that meets the out-of-tolerance dimensions and not the actual dimensions you want?  Why replace a worn ring gear with a 'worn' ring gear.  I hope to get an answer tomorrow....

Neat stuff, but my problem is I usually don't have a broken part that I need to make a copy of, but a "missing part".  How do you make a copy of that  :roll: ,

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Re: New technology?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2009, 09:46:23 AM »
..........I emailed the scanner maker with a question.  That being if you only have the part you want to replace to use for the scan and it's worn won't the end product be a part that meets the out-of-tolerance dimensions and not the actual dimensions you want?  Why replace a worn ring gear with a 'worn' ring gear.  I hope to get an answer tomorrow....

Neat stuff, but my problem is I usually don't have a broken part that I need to make a copy of, but a "missing part".  How do you make a copy of that  :roll: ,

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Re: New technology?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2009, 10:09:16 AM »
About 4 years ago, when I was working, we were given a demo of this technology (not necessarily this company, don't remember).  I asked the 2 questions, Tzoom and Sums.  

The file the 3D scanner makes can be manipulated.  So a broken part or worn out part will require a little more engineering time.  

Sorry Sum, the answer to your question was not as good, they were working on the program to read 2 parts and engineer a connector in the void, but it was not there.  The CATIA guys do that by hand on the computer.  They said they could input the files of the scanned parts to make the computer drafters part easier since he would not have to input the parts to be connected in the computer.... hope that made sense, I may have to re-read it and be sure....  We were working with parts that were on 50 to 60 year old drawings and a lot of the installation details were left to the mechanic... antique airplane restoration was a lot of fun...
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Re: New technology?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2009, 10:50:57 AM »
I work with a lot of companies who use rapid prototyping machines of various designs.
It's a very good tool for developing new products, but there is no "magic".  Lots of design time on a CAD system or CAM system is required. 
It's really handy for making mockups, but modern high-end CAD systems can do just as well as far as checking for interferences and fitments.

You can use some of the models for the core on lost-wax castings, but it's too expensive for real production.

One of the things I do at my business is reverse-engineering to provide data for manufacturing.  Laser scanners IMO, aren't the right tool for anything but artistic type objects.  They can't resolve locations of machined features to high enough accuracy.  I use CMM machines (coordinate measuring machines) which can figure out locations down to 0.00002", but easily get .001".  Laser scanners are about .010" last time I checked them.