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Offline bvillercr

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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2008, 09:36:22 PM »
I think Freud needed some duct tape. :-D


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« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2008, 09:39:59 PM »
Great, I just lost 10,000 more brain cells....I couldn't afford that, ya know!!   :roll:
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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2008, 10:03:00 PM »
Wonder if he had a cell phone with him,  :roll: :evil:
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« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2008, 10:47:31 PM »
Wuz gonna jealously compliment Freud on his generous endowment until I looked closer and saw it was the tailight hanging low under him!
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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2008, 11:03:24 PM »
Wuz gonna jealously compliment Freud on his generous endowment until I looked closer and saw it was the tailight hanging low under him!

IB, Freud told me he had to put a hole in the seat to keep from being blown off the bike at speed.... something about the faster he went the better it worked...  :roll: 
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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2008, 11:11:36 PM »
Any old hole when you're in heat..........

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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2008, 11:41:50 AM »
i would like to mount a lsr type fender on conventional mc front end. what are pros and cons between fenders that only provide coverage forward of the fork tubes and those that cover both forward and rearward(within rules)? thanks.

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« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2008, 04:21:27 PM »
I haven't yet done it -- but I'm told over and over that enclosing the front wheel as much as possible is good.  There's air being moved around by the rotating wheel, and since some of that air is being forced in the direction you're traveling (forwards) you've guaranteed yourself some excess drag and turbulence by having that dirty air there.  Cover the wheel as much as the rules will allow.

Then there's the difficulty that was presented by the rules -- stating that no streamlining is allowed in front of the front axle; and that the front fender may cover the top half of the front wheel (I generalize -- the rules are a little more specific).  The difficulty is/was that the front fender covering the wheel is de facto streamlining, but streamlining de jure describes the bodywork, nose piece, etc, and does not include the fender.  There was a whole heck of a lot of discussion on that -- and maybe a rule change, too, to clear up the cornfusion.

Anyway -- cover that front wheel!
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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2008, 12:00:01 PM »
 am looking for a fender from different sources. might have a problem because of size of front end, and homemade isn't an option right now.
 red wing front end sliders have inside width of 4.75" ; outside- 8.625" ; tire is a 110/70-17.
hope to come up w/ something.thanks again.

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bub '10 - 158.100  sweetooth gear
lta  7/11 -163.389  7/17/11; 3 run avg.-162.450
ohio -    - 185.076 w/#684      
lta 8/14  - 169.xxx. w/sw2           
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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2008, 09:20:43 AM »
thanks,
 called thurs.

franey

bub '07 - 140.293 a/pg   120" crate street mill  
bub '10 - 158.100  sweetooth gear
lta  7/11 -163.389  7/17/11; 3 run avg.-162.450
ohio -    - 185.076 w/#684      
lta 8/14  - 169.xxx. w/sw2           
'16 -- 0 runs ; 0 events

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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested./ 80+mph
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2008, 12:07:27 PM »
Sam Wittingham @ approaching 80+ mph (all human powered)


This is aero!


This bike was SO tiny!  even compared to the other contenders.   Something to think about.

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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2008, 02:58:30 PM »
Just imagine that "bike" with a 100 cc engine in it. If it goes 80 with at best 1 1/2 hps think what it would do with 25!! That is AERO!!!

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Re: Bicycle Aerodynamics for those interested.
« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2008, 05:06:13 PM »
Just imagine that "bike" with a 100 cc engine in it. .........Rex

Don't forget all the safety stuff that would also have to fit in there  :cry: .  John and Eric have done about as good as it is going to probably get with the required items.

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« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2008, 05:47:33 PM »
Then there was the guy who came from Europe couple years ago that pedalled just under 75mph lying on his back facing backwards in his 'liner.

The Varna 80 mph plus bicycle record holder, as yrs truly posted a couple years ago on a similiar topic, looks incredibly like one of the NSU record bikes of the '50s. One that even raced around corners!
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