Milwaukee Midget

[Milwaukee Midget]

On this thing, I simply don't think it will have the "forgiveness factor" of a cast iron 5-port tractor motor.

10 really long bolts - springs, as Sparky points out - sandwiching it all together.

I'm really going to have to be on my game this time.  I suspect my old friend, "Dumb Luck", will not be knocking on my door as often on this one.

I think you should fabricate a custom alternator bracket.

I'd start with two pieces of quite heavy plate, maybe inch. Have one cnc'd to fit over the head and the other a snug fit to bear on the lower skirt and use it as the sump attachment, then I'd connect them with at least 14 high tensile bolts of maybe 58dia. Then you can hang the alt off it somewhere.........

A month back, and he's STILL jet-lagged?   

By the way - MGC rocks on the rocks -

http://melbournegincompany.com/

They must have stripped every Juniper tree in Queensland to make it go.

Thanks for that!

[Jack Gifford]

... I'm not doing this one twice...

Isn't that what we all say?

[Milwaukee Midget]

... I'm not doing this one twice...

Isn't that what we all say?

Yup . . .

Time and time again.

But THIS time, I'm going to stamp out and alleviate redundancy. 

[Milwaukee Midget]

... I'm not doing this one twice...

Isn't that what we all say?

Yup . . .

Time and time again.

But THIS time, I'm going to stamp out and alleviate redundancy. 

[FNQ]

Forgive my ignorance but does the k series use metric??? was this from the collaboration from Honda or built in Europe or?  ... i am not sure if the midget will understand all this new fangledness

[Milwaukee Midget]

Forgive my ignorance but does the k series use metric??? was this from the collaboration from Honda or built in Europe or?  ... i am not sure if the midget will understand all this new fangledness

There IS a K-series Honda engine - no relation to the MG/Rover engine, despite Rover's procurement of Honda engines for the Sterling line of cars in the late 1980's.  

The K series MG/Rover engine was a clean sheet of paper for Rover.  They were the original engine Lotus chose for the Elise, but because it doesn't have a knock sensor, they couldn't export them to the United States until Lotus started procuring engines from Toyota.

As to whether or not the MG will accept the Rover engine, it's a popular swap in Great Britain.  They also tend to wind up in a lot of Caterham 7s.

Yup - metric.       

Makes for a tidy install, I think . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylu3LO_PWJA

[Dr Goggles]

... I'm not doing this one twice...

Isn't that what we all say?

Yup . . .

Time and time again.

But THIS time, I'm going to stamp out and alleviate redundancy. 

.............and again.

Now, what with all this metricity, I'm wondering if you're going to go the full whack. Are you going to change the clocks? That way you can fit more hours into a day.

My dad would always make the point that since metric measurement was brought in he felt younger.

Thing is, metric is a great system but its almost always contaminated.............

OK, have at it.

[Milwaukee Midget]

Now, what with all this metricity, I'm wondering if you're going to go the full whack.

Doc, I'm racing an MG.  No matter how it's measured, there's little doubt I've gone the full whack.

Regarding time, I'm pushing for the 33 1/3 hour day.  That way, I'll be able to easily calculate the time by counting the grooves on "Dark Side of the Moon" and dividing it into 66,666.

Example -

"Time" (track 4) runs 233 revolutions on the turntable.  233/66,666 =.003495.

So according to my watch, it's .003495 later than when I started counting the revolutions on my stereo.

It's no less sensical than a yard being the distance between a king's nose and his thumb. 

[Dr Goggles]

Some words for you to contemplate,

Metperial
Impetric.
Metworth
BSM
Whitric.
 

sorry I'm just in a generally annoying mood today.

[Milwaukee Midget]

Some words for you to contemplate,

Metperial
Impetric.
Metworth
BSM
Whitric.
 

sorry I'm just in a generally annoying mood today.

Always throwing a wrench into the works . . .

 

I own one Metperial open end . . .




Truth be told, I have very little experience with Metric sizing.  I find myself constantly grabbing the wrong socket or spanner.

And it's not like I haven't owned cars with metric sized bolts.  It's just that they've been - for the most part - a lot more reliable than the older American and Brit cars I've owned.

Experience being the best teacher . . .

[Speed Limit 1000]

Some words for you to contemplate,

Metperial
Impetric.
Metworth
BSM
Whitric.
 

sorry I'm just in a generally annoying mood today.

domain-kb.com/www/metperial.com

[salt27]

sorry I'm just in a generally annoying mood today.

Generally annoying is not at all like you, usually you are very annoying.   

I think this may be progress.   

[fordboy628]

sorry I'm just in a generally annoying mood today.

Generally annoying is not at all like you, usually you are very annoying.   

I think this may be progress.   

Perhaps a demotion from Generally annoying to Majorly annoying, might be in order? ?   
 
annoyingboy

[Milwaukee Midget]

Okay, I’ve mentioned the “Sandwich” construction of the K-series, but after cleaning up the gunk in the block and started putting 2 and 2 together, this kinda frightened me.
  
I sourced these two photos from MG-rover.org .  The spindly piece is the stock unit, which I have.  The other die casting is the “uprated” version.



If all it did was supply oil to the mains, that would be okay, but the 10 holes around the perimeter are the tapped holes for the head stud long bolts.  So essentially, the whole engine is held together by this piece and 10 “springs”.

Of course, I would want the heavier duty item of the two.  But ideally, I would prefer a steel piece.  My concern in fabricating a steel replacement is expansion rates and potential sheer and shifting.  But even this uprated oil ladder/girdle retainer looks – well, kinda cheap.

I know – relax – take a breath – all good advice.  Yes, die casting has come a long way, but I’m questioning everything this time – especially a threaded die casting intended to hold the whole engine together.  

[FNQ]

The original ladder does look a tad flimsy doesn't it... but so long as you don't plan on detonation  i am sure the uprated unit will go the relatively short distance. at 9000rpm or thereabouts.

now  that mg install looks the ducks.....  were they 4 amals?    thanks for the honda K info....
what about metric obsfucation... the hiding of metric threads in english body work... now what crank tap will you have to use... multiply by 12 and divide by Tuesday.... loving the detailed strip down .. keep the info coming.... any of those ladder studs prestretched coming out?