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Offline mynameisnotpete

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Question about what class we will be running in.
« on: March 05, 2008, 11:31:39 AM »
We are building a 64 Nova for Bonneville. It will be fully built with a new clip up front. All new suspension and brakes. The car will be fully built for Bonneville. It will be running a Chrysler Hemi 392 Head on Pontiac Block Built by Nick Arias Jr.

Here the engine specs.
Chrysler Hemi 392 Head on Pontiac Block
4-cylinder HEMI built by Nick Arias Jr. Mating a 392 hemispherical head to a GM inline block.
• 163 cubic inch (2.67 L) injected alcohol/gas.
• Hybrid aluminum block with sleeves.
• Hot Heads 392 Hemi cylinder head.
• Hot Heads billet rocker arms & stands.
• Hot Heads finned valve cover.
• Hilborn 392 Hemi port injector.
• Hilborn PG150C fuel pump.
• Arias 14:1 forged pistons with buttons.
• Carrillo rods: 6.000° c to c.
• Velasco billet crankshaft: 3.250° stroke.
• Crane roller cam.
• Iskenderian roller lifters
• Barnes 3 stage dry sump pump
• ARE cast dry sump pan.
• ARE water pump & log.
• Roto-Faze ignition.
• Chevy bellhousing pattern.




I have been poaring over my rule book and I am confused as all get out about what class this car will be running in. Can someone please help!
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Offline Stan Back

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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2008, 11:41:10 AM »
We need to know more about the CAR in able to help you.

Body modifications?  Wing?  Engine setback?

The engine will be classified mainly on displacement, excpt in Vintage and Production classes -- neither of which it falls.
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2008, 12:03:34 PM »
The car will be fairly stock. All of the body panels will be in their original place. No set back. No wing. Possibly a small fin on the deck lit area for some down force. We are trying to keep it pretty clean and simple. Stock in apperance but with all of the under pinnings of a race car. Anything else you would need to know?
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Offline tortoise

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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2008, 12:17:48 PM »
Engine displacement class is F. You are giving up 11.6% of the allowable displacement. (that's 2.67L, not 23.7, by the way.) Think about a stroker crank. If you're running alcohol, you're a fuel altered, or a classic fuel altered. Classic classes do not allow aftermarket EFI. Is yours mechanical or electronic? Altered allows covered grilles and rear spoilers, and you'd give up a lot of speed if you don't run same. On gas, if body is stock, you're a gas coupe.
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2008, 12:48:41 PM »
Sounds like a pretty cool, unique set up!  I'd like to see some pics!
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2008, 12:53:40 PM »
We are still in the planning stages of the build. It should get started here in the next couple of weeks. All of the parts are in hand we just need to start working on it. I'll show some progress when the time comes! I'm sure I will have a ton more questions. I love the forum. Thanks for all of your help!!!
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2008, 02:45:32 PM »
Looks like a Classic Gas coup  F/CGC and F/CFAlt on fuel. To me anyway.
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2008, 04:33:04 PM »
Have you considered anything a little more aero? 
If you haven't built the car yet, put it in a lakester, you can learn how to do one of those looking at any of the several builds going on in the build diaries.  Of course, I'm a lakster kind of guy so I would suggest one...  :roll:
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2008, 10:56:39 PM »
I'm inclined to ask the same question as Stainless - The Nova is a cool looking car, but it is a brick.  A mid '70's Monza would be a lot more slippery, as would a Vega - or maybe an Opel GT.  Are you absolutely set on the Nova?
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 07:05:02 AM »
Do you have any performance #s, hp/torque, rpm limits, sounds interesting.
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 08:47:57 AM »
Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on March 05, 2008, 10:56:39 PM
I'm inclined to ask the same question as Stainless - The Nova is a cool looking car, but it is a brick.  A mid '70's Monza would be a lot more slippery, as would a Vega - or maybe an Opel GT.  Are you absolutely set on the Nova?

While a lakester sounds great the nova was already bought and needed a plan. I'm not the one making the decisions. I'm just on the crew and doing some of the research.

I'm a lakester and a streamliner kinda guy my self. I've got an inline 6 powered bellytank project in the works at the moment.
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2008, 09:10:18 AM »
NotPete, As a requirement of your membeship start posting build pics of your projects, sounds interesting, the lakester I mean, the deuce will need HP to overcome CD...  :roll:  I want to see that motor, sounds interesting  8-)
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2008, 10:11:49 AM »
I wish I had some pics to share. When I get some I will post them. I'm still trying to work out some details so this project cn get started. All of your advice has been taken to heart. I appreciate all your help.
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Re: Question about what class we will be running in.
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2008, 11:51:58 AM »
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