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Offline JackD

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2008, 10:45:24 PM »
I might be naive about this but I don't believe that SCTA is trying to get rich off of the entrants.  I feel their fees are based on what they feel they need to take in to make the event not only possible in any given year, but in the event it is weathered out a couple times in a row.  I want them to stay ahead of the money game so that there will be a guarantee that the event will continue.

Therefore I'll pay what they ask and not try and second guess them.  If you race it is expensive and there is no way around that and the entry fee like has been mentioned is a small part of the total expense.

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The entry fee seems ok, BUT $300 for a class change???  DOUBLED!  For $100 more I could just enter another bike.
Don't get me wrong....I am bitching

Bill

Changing classes with the basic same vehicle is considered to be bad form, and has had the title of "Class Jumping" associated with it.
It is in the same league as not *funning enough % Nitro to be considered a real fueler.
I suspect the fees reflect that opinion rather than additional costs. :-(

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« Last Edit: February 14, 2008, 10:59:20 PM by JackD »
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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2008, 11:11:02 PM »

The entry fee seems ok, BUT $300 for a class change???  DOUBLED!  For $100 more I could just enter another bike.
Don't get me wrong....I am bitching

Bill

Think about what you just said. .......................

If everyone that entered a car or bike to run at Bonneville changed classes that would effectively double the number of entrants. Besides just because you have initally entered to run, why should you get a break on the price to change classes. If I were to bring two different vehicles up to run at Bonneville I don't get a break on entry fees, I pay the full price for two vehicles. Why shouldn't you? In my eyes changing class with one vehicle is no different than running two different vehicles, yet you get a break on fees. Quit your bitching.

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2008, 11:50:18 PM »

The entry fee seems ok, BUT $300 for a class change???  DOUBLED!  For $100 more I could just enter another bike.
Don't get me wrong....I am bitching

Bill

Think about what you just said. .......................

If everyone that entered a car or bike to run at Bonneville changed classes that would effectively double the number of entrants. Besides just because you have initally entered to run, why should you get a break on the price to change classes. If I were to bring two different vehicles up to run at Bonneville I don't get a break on entry fees, I pay the full price for two vehicles. Why shouldn't you? In my eyes changing class with one vehicle is no different than running two different vehicles, yet you get a break on fees. Quit your bitching.

Tom G.

Tom ,

Let's run the numbers and see who you would want if you ran the show.

Enter one class and make 14 runs over 7 days the total cost to enter $435

Now  enter one vehicle make 8 runs(2 per class/4classes total) The total cost to enter $1340.

The class jumper makes 40% less passes and pays three times as much as one class Charlie.

The $150 class change fee was acceptable as the cost of a possible additional trophy must be covered.

But $300 seems a little steep.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2008, 11:53:06 PM by racin jason »

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 11:53:02 PM »
Revenue generated by class changing has a higher return on investment than an initial entry, with the same number of vehicles, or so I am told. :wink:

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2008, 12:10:33 AM »

The entry fee seems ok, BUT $300 for a class change???  DOUBLED!  For $100 more I could just enter another bike.
Don't get me wrong....I am bitching

Bill

Think about what you just said. .......................

If everyone that entered a car or bike to run at Bonneville changed classes that would effectively double the number of entrants. Besides just because you have initally entered to run, why should you get a break on the price to change classes. If I were to bring two different vehicles up to run at Bonneville I don't get a break on entry fees, I pay the full price for two vehicles. Why shouldn't you? In my eyes changing class with one vehicle is no different than running two different vehicles, yet you get a break on fees. Quit your bitching.

Tom G.
Sorry Tom, but think about what you said..................

If everyone that entered changed classes,  it would effectively be the same amount of vehicles and if everyone did the amount of runs they would normally do (just doing some runs in a different class) then there is no change to the number of vehicles down the course.
By running 2 vehicles and one rider/driver, both vehicles go through staging together.  Rider takes 1st vehicle down, comes back, takes 2nd vehicle down, and goes to the back of the line(or impound).  If class change on one vehicle, one run, then back of line.

'07 Speedweek I did 14 runs in one class.  How would this effect you or anyone if I ran 8 in one class and 6 in another? (A number change, paper work and re-inspection, jutifying a class change fee half (or less) of the entry fee.) Now if I had a 2nd bike running then we are looking at almost 28 runs, and justifying 2 entry fees.

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 12:12:36 AM »
Yeah what Jack said! :-)

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2008, 12:43:26 AM »
i was told that the trophy costs 200 dollars and most racers who change classes usually set the record and got a 200 dollar trophy for 150 dollars now that trophy will cost you 300 dollars--if that is true then its o k with me --i think that most people will probibly concentrate on one class   probibly what i will do   just some thoughts  willie buchta

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2008, 01:25:33 AM »
 additional trophies were available for $150 the last time i ordered one.

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2008, 02:49:24 AM »
 :-o  Jason, You don't have enough trophy's? That's not what I hear!!!

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2008, 02:50:47 AM »
Business sense provides the option to have each class entered at Bonneville or event results from El Mirage, combined onto 1 trophy, and thus save the money that more hardware would represent.
Trophy sponsors have been available that can be listed on the tag, and absorb some of the costs.
I have a bunch of those, and some are even sponsored by member clubs..

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2008, 02:57:08 AM »
Thats dirt cheap!!!! You should try road racing with SCCA! Its that much every race.




I just read the club minutes and it looks like the speedweek entry fee is going up to $400 and the class change doubled to $300.



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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2008, 06:44:54 AM »
I Reckon this one trip in 09 will cost including the Building of the Bike, Race Fees, RV hire, Food drink, Air Fares the works will cost somewhere in the region of £10,000-£12,000 or $24,000 so the $400 for the oportunity to race at Bonneville seems reasonable if not cheep to me! If it was $4000 I might have to think about it a bit, but I reckon thats why God gave you 2 Kidneys.

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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2008, 10:18:43 AM »
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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2008, 10:41:34 AM »
I'm not going to open a new topic for this, but would appreciate it if someone can give me the answer to my question.

I have the dates for SpeedWeek '08, including tech day, but for World Finals the SCTA site only shows 8-11 October -- no specified date for tech.  When is tech at World Finals '08?

I'm trying to get all of the dates correct so Nancy can put in for time off for the entire season, and we need to know this one little bit of data.  Somebody know?  Thanks.
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Re: Speedweek race fees
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2008, 10:46:24 AM »
I reciently made a racing business trip to England and the exchange rate was very near 2 to 1.
After payinng $650 American for a cab ride, I am beginning to understand better their attraction to kidney pie. 8-)
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