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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2008, 11:40:25 AM »
ECTA is a little different animal in that it is a short weekend event and the entries need to quickly scatter to the winds and back to a real job when the meet is over.
That doesn't accommodate the ability to seal the engine and have it additionally measured later because the travel distance is so great.
As their events mature, they will add more scrutiny but for now it suits their purpose.
In the early days of SCTA, engine type was the deciding factor and size was less important.
Of course if you went too fast, regardless if the type of motor, they just bumped you up a class and that was that.
I guess if you want to cheat, you can, but you have to consider at what expense. 
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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2008, 01:01:52 PM »
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During the last 7 or 8 years I've been doing them I have found with the proper training you can get very very close to the cubic inch displacement of the engine.

Just shows ya how easy it is. After 7 or 8 years you finally get close!
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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2008, 02:16:18 PM »
BRUTAL  :-D
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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2008, 10:10:21 PM »
JackD,  I hope by reading my post you did not get the impression that I wanted to cheat.  Being new to this I just wanted to know the rules. I read the engine size/class as being literal.  So when E class says up to 260 cu in. I have had designed a 254.7 - 255 cu in small block chevy,,, That is only 2% under.  I have every intention of setting a record, but being very very rusty on engine tear down myself, I Just wanted to know if they "always tore you down"  if you run good and/or are within 3% of the limits?   I am not concerned that I will be oversize as I will be exactly the size I state. Just with the time involved and my limited motor skill. I asked so as to be prepared to ave the motor builder come with me.

Hope that explains why I asked... cheating never entered into it.

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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2008, 10:48:20 PM »
...........So when E class says up to 260 cu in. I have had designed a 254.7 - 255 cu in small block chevy,,, That is only 2% under.  I have every intention of setting a record, but being very very rusty on engine tear down myself, I Just wanted to ................

Actually it is up to 260.9999, so you have almost one more cubic inch to work with,

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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2008, 10:57:01 PM »
Summ,  I stand corrected... see I told you I am new at this... I will now only be at 97.5862 %   ( 254.70 / 260.9999 = .975862 )

Just have been informed that my crank and heads will not be here until about March 15th... It's going to be close making Maxton in April,, I will be there for sure, but my Vicky may not be ready.... Gosh... I am crossing my fingers all works out for April..

Summ  are you going to make it in April ?

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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2008, 11:20:38 PM »
.................Summ  are you going to make it in April ?

Charles

No, I think it will be crowded with the Hot Rod deal and I hope to run my truck, so I'm now planning on the May meet.  Hope you are there with your car.  Sounds like a nice car,

Sum

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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2008, 11:43:41 PM »
Summ,  yeah the Hot Rod Top Speed Challenge is in April,,, I am trying to get my car done.  I think you are right however, May will be less crowded and give us each a chance to make more runs.

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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2008, 11:55:36 PM »
I only made reference to the honor system that works well enough for them.
I prepared a 258 inch V-6 that was direct measured for an SCTA, 200 Club, and an FIA record all in the same week at Bonneville.
The next event was at the salt also and the person that was verifying the club record on that same car used an air pump.
He instructed us on what to do to prepare the engine and was not aware of the requirement to disable the valve train.
I knew better, but followed his directions exactly.
As you might imagine the pump declared the motor to be substantially smaller that it really was.
I waited until he was done and quietly went over the proper method with him and you can bet he was a lot more attentive to detail than he demonstrated to me after that.

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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2008, 12:02:42 AM »
Because of Dean's SA answer I'll being going to private messages from now on....However Jack will continue with all the correct answers..Good Luck All.............................JD
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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2008, 12:23:55 AM »
Because of Dean's SA answer I'll being going to private messages from now on....However Jack will continue with all the correct answers..Good Luck All.............................JD
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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2008, 11:42:13 AM »
JD---how in the world will we know who to root for ??????????---I have decided to root for JR Johnson---divorced my former driver ts when he decided to drive a JAP car  :-D                                                                      88-48
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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2008, 01:01:40 PM »
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Because of Dean's SA answer I'll being going to private messages from now on....However Jack will continue with all the correct answers..Good Luck All.............................JD

My humble apologies to you. I, like Jack, like to have some fun here. Nobody is dinging your skill. I appreciate all the work you have done over the years.

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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2008, 01:49:45 PM »
Yeah Dean but you step on yours. :-D
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Re: asking for heads up on impound measurement(s)
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2008, 05:06:58 PM »
You will have to excuse Glen, he is old, and retired to Utah.
What more can I say ? :-D
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