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Offline Bob Drury

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Chute problem
« on: August 25, 2007, 06:47:41 PM »
This is just a heads up about a insignificant little item and what it can do. 
  I have been running a Deist chute and cable until this year and I replaced the chute with a Stroud.  The Deist cable has a cross piece on the end which is used to snap the cable on to the chute pack.  The Stroud does not use the snap piece, just the raw cable housing and cable end held in by the cord.  When I pulled the chute, one single shroud line caught that cross piece, wrapped around it, and turned the entire chute into a giant wad.  The stupid part is all I needed to do was to unscrew the cross piece from the cable housing and everything would have been kosher.  Luckily I wasn't going fast enough to get in trouble, but it just shows how the smallest detail could have caused a disaster..........Bob
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2007, 08:07:30 PM »
hey here's another good tid bit to file in your memory banks......
......"DONT TOSS THE LOW SPEED CHUTE OUT AT 293MPH!".... it'll take ya 3 days to clean all the fire extinguisher crap out of your engines.....
kent

oh did anyone get it on film?.....
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2007, 06:51:24 AM »
Quote from: 1212FBGS on August 25, 2007, 08:07:30 PM
hey here's another good tid bit to file in your memory banks......
......"DONT TOSS THE LOW SPEED CHUTE OUT AT 293MPH!".... it'll take ya 3 days to clean all the fire extinguisher crap out of your engines.....
kent

oh did anyone get it on film?.....
Sorry, no....but I got you after the roll on the side of the streamliner, having a expression in your face "can I get a six pack of beer..."
You be at the salt to WF? I bring you the CD-ROM......
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2007, 12:55:23 PM »
gonna try for the WF. making alot of things better. changing a few thing i have wanted to do for a long time.
kent
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2007, 01:14:42 PM »
If used with the Diest pack, the t-bar snap will pull the top flap away and hasten the release of the contents and secure the cable end behind the flap.
With out that kind of pulling action to start the process, I had a
Stroud chute stay in when it was freezing at EM.
The string loop and the pack were so cold and stiff that it would not release without a touch, and that was with a spring loaded pilot..
An unsecured hook in the path of the chute will hook.

"You get what you pay for and experience is the best teacher." (or something like that) :wink:
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 08:30:07 PM »
Jack, I like the Deist snaps, and am going to install them on my Stroud Chute.  Lionel Pitts turned me onto a neat trick with the chute release loop:  smother it with vaseline, and I guarantee it will end any cable release issues you may have.  It also makes installing the safety tag a lot easier........Bob
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2007, 10:38:29 PM »
Sure , if ya wanna be seen with Vaseline.
Real racers carry a tube of K-Y hanging out of their back pocket. 8-)
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2007, 08:17:23 AM »
Stroud, told me not to expect the pilot spring to retain is strength longer than about 2 years---my ribbon is in it second season and I noticed it is getting easier to pack will be ordering new pilot chute this winter.
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 08:47:20 AM »
Quote from: 1212FBGS on August 25, 2007, 08:07:30 PM
hey here's another good tid bit to file in your memory banks......
......"DONT TOSS THE LOW SPEED CHUTE OUT AT 293MPH!".... it'll take ya 3 days to clean all the fire extinguisher crap out of your engines.....
kent

oh did anyone get it on film?.....

Hey Kent, you didn't violate the "don't crap in the firesuit" rule did ya?  I'll bet you were still vibrating at midnight...  :-o
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2007, 10:20:59 AM »
Spring steel material takes a set, and like valve springs will form to it's surroundings over time.
The strength of the material does not change and remember it is wound in a cold process.
Storing the pilot spring in the released position will substantially add to it's life, and if it can be removed from the fabric even better.
Just like a valve spring, if you leave it compressed, it will not have the same pre-load tension over time.
In Your lifetime, you should / will never keep a pilot spring fully compressed long enough to make a difference.
Dragging it on the ground as you slow to a stop will damage the fabric, long before the spring.  :wink:
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2007, 01:31:03 PM »
Stainless:

Kent sat with us at our trailer the afternoon of his error -- and he didn't stink.  I'll admit that there are some folks that think their s**t doesn't stink, and I won't go into the discussion to decide if Kent's one of them. 

Whatever -- we thought he had held up pretty well for someone that went all topsy-turvy at darn near three bills just a few hours earlier.

PS  The fenders were waiting for us when we got home, Kent.  Thanks.
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2007, 03:31:03 PM »
I can confirm that Kent was not shaken after the three roller - only that he needs a six pack beer to wash his frustration down that he has to replace the whole body work............
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2007, 06:03:48 PM »
when i got done rolling i landed on my wheels... so i just drove it off the track...better than the 217 crash that left about a mile debris field..... and when i got to the return road i saw one of slims green mini condos and decided to head over to it but the fire truck was approaching kinda fast so i decided to stop for 'em.... i wish they woulduv emptied both of there big ass bottles on the little fire instead of inside both turbos.... :x.... ta answer yer question... no poo in da suit :-D. altho my wife's increasingly calling me full of shit makes me wonder if i have since the crash :?...
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2007, 08:54:48 PM »
Quote from: 1212FBGS on August 27, 2007, 06:03:48 PM
when i got done rolling i landed on my wheels... so i just drove it off the track...better than the 217 crash that left about a mile debris field..... and when i got to the return road i saw one of slims green mini condos and decided to head over to it but the fire truck was approaching kinda fast so i decided to stop for 'em.... i wish they woulduv emptied both of there big ass bottles on the little fire instead of inside both turbos.... :x.... ta answer yer question... no poo in da suit :-D. altho my wife's increasingly calling me full of shit makes me wonder if i have since the crash :?...
kent

Kent do you want me to come to the shop and get the video from you and have my friend edit it for the rest of us to see or have you got it figured out?

Scott
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Re: Chute problem
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2007, 09:20:33 PM »
Kent, the fire extinguisher into the turbo's comment brings up some interesting points.  Do our safety workers have any training in extinguishing a fire.  I am not sure that I would know where to spray a fire in a streamliner.  Marlo's new car has ports installed to stick the fire extinguisher into.  Of course if the body is gone, the point becomes moot, but just as we mark the power shut off, perhaps you streamliner guys ought to follow Marlo's suit........just a thought.  p.s.  I carry twice the required amount of fire extiguishers on board than required, spares in the truck don't do shit to put a fire out in the race car...Bob
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