Wet versus Dry Nitrous Systems

[1212FBGS]

hey ive seen that before...
kr

[Stainless1]

 I thought for a second that that was one of ours, but the holes were much bigger in ours.  Where is the piston?  It should be equally as nice.  Ain't N20 fun...  Just bolt it on and get cheap HP 
The HP is cheap, the repairs are the expensive part... 

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flyboy
ya commin to speed week of are ya just doin the Bub thing
kent

[Flyboy]

Kent,

I will only going to BUB this year. Would love to come to Speedweek but won't be ready in time. I missed out on a second FIM record last year because of Charlie (story will soon follow) so I'm going back to get it. I will be coming down to SD the weekend of July 27-28 to see my Dad. Maybe we can get together Sat night so I can buy you a couple drinks? Bill

[1212FBGS]

i will be at the shop all day and probably night sat the 28th working on the liner stop on by
kent

[joea]

stainless......so your  sayin ...yours is bigger than mine...?

in this case........yes.......your hole is likely bigger than mine........

look familiar....?...(see attached pic).....

look at  mine closer (jons post end of 3rd page)...where the counter balancer is hangin out...the rod blew the hole front 1/3 out of the bottom of the motor, cases shatter...pan etc.........

I would say mine  is more impressive than yours, but  your  hole is  bigger...

flyboy be careful who ya listen to....we  can help you do what we have done...

as far as pistons with large portions missing......there a dime a dozen..(or is that a diamond a dozen..?)...
I have so many I could have a large party of my closest friends and family and use them for balloon hold down devices....

Joe

[Stainless1]

Yes, that one is mine, the case is cut all the way around, the head bolts were holding the end of the case in place.  N20 at its finest.   
Mine would never knock out the balance shaft, I take 'em out.

flyboy be careful who ya listen to....we  can help you do what we have done...

as far as pistons with large portions missing......there a dime a dozen..(or is that a diamond a dozen..?)...
I have so many I could have a large party of my closest friends and family and use them for balloon hold down devices....

Joe

Joe, it's just a guess, but I'll bet FB does not want us to help him do what we showed we could do in the pictures.    I think I remember that birthday party... a balloon and piston for every year of age wasn't it?

[2fast4u2c]

Fly Boy,

My only experience is in the 1 mile.  Listen to nothing I say or said, it means nothing to you for the salt.

I run a 5lb bottle just to give me proper pressure for 5,280 feet and I think JoeA used a 10lb bottle when he broke his nitrous records on the 1000.  2- 2# bottles will be pushing it in my humble opinion.
I know nothing about the salt or it's requirements, but I will tell you that I'm getting better at what I do in the 1 mile.

Guy

[Flyboy]

Guy-  where do you run at 5,280? Denver?

Stainless, joe- Those pictures are very encouraging. As a pilot I'm always studying airplane crashes to see what the person did wrong so I can hope never to repeat their actions. (99.9% of the time it's the pilots fault)

On the other hand, professional golfers on the tour are taught by their "head doctors" that whenever something goes wrong in a tournament they should always blame it on an outside factor, so the player won't lose his self-confidence. By examining your sets of pictures I can safely deduct one of the following-
1) The nitrous bottle was defective,
2) A strong crosswind blew too much nitrous into the downwind cylinder,
3) The nitrous button was from China and got stuck,
4) I was going so fast and knew I had another record but my buddy holds that record and I didn't want to hurt his feelings so I just kept my finger on the button till it blew,
5) My wife is getting the bike when the divorce is final and I was trying for 300 mph,
and last but not least-
5) Noonan sold me some defective pistons.

Kent, in what part of town do you live?

[1212FBGS]

the shop is in Vista on your way to sd
map quest
2530 fortune way
vista ca 92081

[peglegcraig]

 Hey Flyboy, Watch out you might be put to work, he's a man on a mission

[2fast4u2c]

Guy-  where do you run at 5,280? Denver?

Maxton, 5,280' = 1 mile
sorry for the confusion.

[Flyboy]

I'd be interested in seeing Kent's project if I can make it.

Next question, and I thank you gentleman.

Gearing-- We are all familiar with the gearing formulas that exist on at least two sites I know. If one uses, as an example, an additional 50 hp on his already 190 hp bike what would the increase in RPMs be?  Example. I was seeing about 10,200 rpm (at Bonneville) in my MPS setup with about 185 hp (sea level). So with a 27% increase in hp should I be seeing about a 1,500 (13%) increase in RPM? I'm trying to figure out what rear sprockets to bring.

Second question- Engine Manufactures always put in a fudge factor when setting red lines on tachs so the engine won't blow up. How far have you gone over red line in a stock configuration or otherwise with not having damaged your engine? Is there a rule of thumb?

[Speed Limit 1000]

With more power we ran 1000 RPM lower than on gas

[russ jensen]

[quote author=Flyboy link=topic=2685.msg32579#msg32579 date=118523970
 As a pilot I'm always studying airplane crashes to see what the person did wrong so I can hope never to repeat their actions. (99.9% of the time it's the pilots fault)

where did you come up w/ this one??? my best stock car driver made his first pass w/ spray plane-on a standing corn field that was to muddy for ground hyboys-{fully loaded} engine sputtered- he put it down real nice- never even tipped it over- but the sudden stop crushed him with his belts- how was that pilot error?--couple of summers ago a p-51 was circling for landing  @ Red  Wing MN and camshaft broke-he is also dead- don't think that was pilot error either..