Streamliner

[JackD]

The laws of Aerodynamics are proven and absolute.
There was a version of the same thing that had permanently deployed outrigger wheels that under ideal circumstances would be off the ground and the vehicle was very much the same as the one in question.
The outrigger wheels were on an arm from each side that was as slippery as the could make it and in a straight line.
 It offered no up or downforce and was weight balanced from the other side.
It was not designed to lift and recover from a spill but prevent it in the first place.
Another version (The Skytracker) was a modification from a proven motorcycle streamliner design that had set records over 300mph.
 Now with side wheels in place of the retractable skids it was classified as a car.
Under normal cross wind conditions while the operator crashed many times as a bike at least he was able to lean the bike version into the cross winds and ride it out many more times.
With the tag wheels that was not the case and the vehicle crashed heavily into pieces as soon as they hit the ground at speed.
The on board safety equipment saved his life and while the vehicle broke into pieces it did not further complicate things by doing it in traffic.
The OEM 2 wheeled people spend a lot of time and money in an effort to balance performance with styling and ride-ability.
Road racing sanction bodies also have limits that allow a bike to perform in the variable conditions they see on a track, both in and out of traffic.
It is that type of thing that eliminated the "dustbin" from competition.
With an airplane, you can steer into the wind and fly some degree sideways because in part you have no connection with the ground with wheels that want to go the other way.
Watch a  plane land in a cross wind and see the quick reaction that is required of the pilot as soon as the wheels make ground contact.
If the vehicle was confined to a tunnel with no outside influence it might come closer to the theoretical projections but in the world it will fail.
That reality is tough to convince many people that always want to push the edge out , but then how else will they learn for themselves ?
None of the aero design features are new and have failed in the past.
I learned at the expence of others and pass that much along for free.
 I don't see much future for the design.   

[ack]

You?re slipping Jack.  I understood the whole thing even though my interpreter was out of town.

[JackD]

You?re slipping Jack.  I understood the whole thing even though my interpreter was out of town.

It was not written for you to understand !
All I did was translate your Latin expression and it  got me in trouble.
You know I hate that.
 ROFLMAO (rolling on the floor laughing my ass off)

OBTW: If my secretary knew I was typing that much while she was gone, I would have to leave town also.

[smitty2]

It certainly looks fast and futuristic, but has anyone seen it in action or timed it yet? It looks like another Moller "Air Car" to me. If this was really the future we would be married to Jane our robot maid, and talking dog "Astro" would be running our lives and don't forget his boy Elroy It doesn't look too comfortable for us guys that resemble "Magilla Gorilla" more than George Jetson though.

 Have a good day!...      Smitty

[PorkPie]

Jack....you can call the rider by the name........Don Vesco........

[JackD]

Jack....you can call rider by the name........Don Vesco........

I grew up around Don and while he started his career to be a Millwright
He mastered the motorcycle.

[guttley782]

Jack,
Thank you for your honest appraisal. To Smitty, I drove it on an old Russian air base in the Russian sector of East Germany as it was then.  It is now the Michelen driving centre, where Michelen do all their specialised tyre testing with Mercedes, BMW, Audi and the other German car manufacturers.  My histroy is all round motorcycles, through road racing and then into land speed records.  I tested a streamliner in South Africa in 2003, using solid wheels on the alkaline surface.  I found the Acabion to be very stable and smooth, with the steering fairly heavy at slow speed, but beautifully balanced at speed.

[PorkPie]

It moves really.....

[PorkPie]

...and view from the passenger seat behind the rider......yeap the dashboard had to be controlled by the passenger...........

[Glen]

That loop don't look like much roll over protection to me.

[PorkPie]

That loop don't look like much roll over protection to me.

Glen, this was the very first running prototype - but it was very strong. still it looks small on the picture.
The trick is the inside frame laminate into the composite - don't forget this is a carbon composite body.

[Glen]

I am saying a single loop does not offer a lot of protection. I would have to see and inspect the vehicle live to have a final say.

[1212FBGS]

gabe,
I like it... have him send me one, I will rebuild it to SCTA specs and race it for him. with 300+hp I may be able to get him the results he claims.
you get a lot more respect and investors when you can back your claims up.
Yours in sport
Kent

[PorkPie]

gabe,
I like it... have him send me one, I will rebuild it to SCTA specs and race it for him. with 300+hp I may be able to get him the results he claims.
you get a lot more respect and investors when you can back your claims up.
Yours in sport
Kent

But it's easier to get this in a sports competition than thru a street legal tech control from the goverment...especially in Europe..........

[JackD]

KENT !
SIT DOWN !