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Offline pookie

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« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2006, 11:13:10 AM »
Jimmy Six, IF the RED nose fits, go ahead and wear it.  If you want to know more about my "Pookie  moniker" I'll be at El Mirage all weekend. Just look for the guy with the old style camera that has a black & yellow neck strap. I'll be at Tech on friday all day. Remember the old saying."Never judge a man by his name or looks,you might just get  the surprise of your life." OK, it's not an old saying, I made it up but it does have value.

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« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2006, 11:31:30 AM »
Pookie, JD, Jack U,Jim Miller and I have for many years collected, made copies for others, let them look at personal files etc. We go to swap meets and look for anything LSR related. We find old trophies, dash plaques, photos, books and of course cars and bike stuff. These are our treasres and keep sakes. Even though we don't live in the same neighborhood we find ways to research and help people. There is a large collection in the NHRA museum as well,

It would be wonderful if we had a LSR museum and the funds and people to man it. I have many duplicates of rule books, programs etc. from over the years. If someone is looking for a certain year program I might have it. Same with photos, I have lots from the post wwii era at the lakes. Les Long is making copies of anything he can get and will some day sell books.

See ya Friday at the lakes
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« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2006, 12:26:04 PM »
Sure, Elmo, I understand.  I just wanted to show off as being pedantic yet obstreperous.

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« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2006, 03:37:18 PM »
Hey Jon,commas were what you were using.
Elmo,we're sending you back to English 101.(notice use of apostrophe)
Apostrophes go like so  '  commas go like this ,
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Bonneville 2001,2002,2003,2004,and NO stinking 2005,DLRA 2006, next?
Well,sure can't complain about 2008--6 records over 200 and 5 hats from Bonneville,Bubs, and El Mirage for the team!

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« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2006, 05:09:37 PM »
Misspelled words, bad grammer, and stuff are often used in this format to
 hammer home a point,
It works because while it conveys the same thought, it will cause the
reader to read it more than once .
 As a result they are more likely to remember it.

Many of the rules are directed to a specific problem that has developed over the years.
If there is any fault it is in not combining it smoothly with the other
 language and only seems to address it's individual point.
Many competitors are able to put a name and a face to a subsequent rule
better that express it in writing for all others to have the same understanding. :wink:
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« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2006, 09:47:53 PM »
I, only, use comma's, or apostrophies, where I would normally use, swear words, in real life...............................
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« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2006, 09:53:30 AM »
pook----I worked all day Friday, Saturday, & Sunday at the registration/inspection trailer. I even towed it out Friday morning. Bruce Vaughn and I started inspecting the cars as soon as we could and many others joined in making it a great day...I even walked the backend of the course. I don't think there are many SCTA member who don't know who I am.

But, no one came up to me and discussed our SCTA history. Sorry you missed your chance with Glen, Jim Miller and I...But then again I don't hear very well....

When you get a chance please show me the NASCAR, NHRA, SCCA, CART, INDYCAR, etc complete rule books posted on the net..Thanks
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« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2006, 10:10:17 AM »
The above mentioned rules in a CD format all come to me for free .
I guess as a result of my SFI membership and interest they judt show up.
I am instructed the Copywrite laws will not allow me to sell them , but I
have them none the less.
There is some exception to the SCTA rules though.  :wink:
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« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2006, 11:15:45 AM »
Hi Jimmie six,  I stood next to you several times while you were inspecting the cars, I had a black jacket on,white hat ,gray go-tee beard, eye glasses,  6' 220 lbs my trusty camera with the YELLOW & Black neck strap.  I listened to as you went through your very inspection list. You gave several fellows good advice on how to go about making some corrections on the cars to get them in compliance with the rule book requirements. You also swapped a few stories. You came across as a nice guy and very knowledgeable. About 3 races ago, we had a good talk about your "mini bike"which is really nice and the clutch-braking system you built.,very trick!! Remember me now. You were so busy, I never saw you stop working, I thought that maybe at a later time during the meet. I saw you on Saturday in the am but you were still at it in the inspection more work.  I saw Glenn arrive on Fri. pm but he was busy greeting , he looked at me but I don't think he remembered me. We have met. Speedweek 2005,timing tower afterMondays racing was finished. I was the course worker, at mile 1 long course. I did talk briefly with Dan Warner, we talked about a SCTA_BNI museum at El Mirage.  Maybe we can talk at the banquet .

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« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2006, 12:05:39 PM »
Nope- sorry I don't..........
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« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2006, 02:48:12 PM »
Pookie, There you go telling the world Jimmie six is a nice guy, what next
will he be wearing a shirt and Tie while inspecting, oh yeah, white gloves. LOL I remember you at speed week but didn't see you while on the inspection line, was busy seeing a lot of old friends. Haven't beento the lakes since the May meet. In spite of the wind and dust it turned out pretty well.
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« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2006, 12:43:01 AM »
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When you get a chance please show me the NASCAR, NHRA, SCCA, CART, INDYCAR, etc complete rule books posted on the net..Thanks


NASCAR, CART and INDYCAR do not have full rules on the net "yet"
SCCA does, and NHRA has all their rules for the sport compact rule book online and several technical referecences for the "domestic" drag rules book. The FIA international drag racing rules are very nearly a clone of the NHRA rules and those are on line.

If your question is to determine, who or what, sort of rules are available, a simple google search returns over 32,000 hits. These are only a quick skim through the first few pages of the google search.

Here are some representative rule book sources. You will note a very strong trend here! The racing series that are actively are seeking participation by the younger generation, will have full rules packages on  line. In many cases for several years. The old line, or big dollar racing series (such as NASCAR) generally do not or only have parts of it available. Just as recently as 2002 SCCA had no online rules information. They now have full rule books on line. Many of the "unavailable" rules can be pieced together from other rules sources. For example you can nearly get a full NASCAR rule set by looking at the local track rules published by 100's of the smaller tracks that run to or closely mirror NASCAR rules.


Some of these are not auto racing rules books, but demonstrate the issue about younger members or higher income members that are likely to be computer literate and internet savy.

http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2006/rules/index.html
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2002/rules/index.html  <---- avail since 2002

http://www.nhra.com/content/general.asp?articleid=2211&zoneid=60&navsource=rule%20revisions   <-- rules corrections
http://www.nhra.com/stats/indexes.htm <--- class indexes
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/altitude.html <--- altitude correction factors
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/classification/index.html <--- stock classifications
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/pistons/index.html <--- stock piston replacement list
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/rods/index.html <--- stock and super stock rod acceptance list
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/runners/index.html <---- stock cylinder head volumes
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/engine/index.html <---- engine blue print specs
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/fuels.html <--- accepted fuels list
http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/ETQuickRef.html <---- NHRA E.T. quick reference chart (required safety equipment)

http://www.racesir.com/dlds/Jr.%20Drag%20Rule%20Book.pdf <---- JR drag racing rule book

http://ndra.nopi.com/2006/ndra_rulebook.cfm <--- NDRA drag racing rule book
http://129.33.208.40/ndra/2004%20NDRA%20Rules.pdf <---- avail at least since 2004

http://importdrag.com/2006%20IDRC%20Class%20Regulations.pdf

http://www.dragguam.com/techpage/genreg.pdf  <--- local copy of most of the NHRA rule set.

http://www.scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/2006_solo_rules.pdf

http://www.champcarworldseries.com/Tech/champcar_specs.asp <--- champ cars specs in html
http://www.indycar.com/tech/

http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/wtcregs.html
http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/1207803084__2005DragGeneral.pdf   <--- FIA drag racing

http://www.wcma.ca/2006%20Solo/ASN%20Canada%20FIA%202006%20CAC%20Regs%20Apr02.pdf

http://www.asalatemodelssouth.com/pdfs/06rulebook_01.pdf
http://www.asalatemodelsnorth.com/pdfs/06rulebook_01.pdf

http://www.pca-ggr.org/pdf/2006rules.pdf

http://www.600racing.com/PDFs/Legends%20Cars.pdf  <--- legends racing

http://www.fascar.org/html/page1.shtml

http://www.dirtmotorsports.com/corp/images/media/2006WoOSprintRulebook1.04.pdf


http://www.corracing.com/files/CORR_Rule_Book.pdf

http://www.nbl.org/nbl/hidethis/rulebook/2006rulebookforweb.pdf

http://www.mtrae.co.uk/rulebook/2006MTRA-RuleBook.pdf

http://www.andersonspeedway.com/backgate/2006_rulebook.pdf  <--- local track specific rules

http://www.ama-cycle.org/rulebooks/
http://www.amaproracing.com/rulebook/



http://www.mmraracing.com/rules.htm


http://www.nmro.net/rulebook.html



http://www.snipe.org/scira/rules/

http://www.wsaracing.com/assets/assets/themes/wsanew02/images/pdf/June18_FINAL03-04rulebook.pdf

http://www.americancycling.org/info/documents/06-rulebook.pdf
http://scnca.org/2006%20USCF%20Rulebook.pdf

http://www.mmraracing.com/Forms/2006%20Road%20Racing%20Rulebook.pdf

Larry

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« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2006, 10:11:50 AM »
If a rule is to be enforced that is to be covered by liability insurance it is
required to be published and available to the affected parties.
The format varies and a CD version is not universally avalable to the
 public at large yet but is  always at least an internal document.
That includes the printer that uses it for edit and setup.
Copies and availability are the only barrier.
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« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2006, 02:20:19 PM »
Two cents again ..

Shipping a CD is still shipping, and a public url is an open book for all to see, however there is the mid-way point of having the stuff saved as pdfs and put up on a website that is password protected. You can change the password whenever you like. Hard copies could be made available at a more premium co$t to (a) motivate the tech-unsavvy to get thee to a computer if they don't have one (public library) .. (b) get to know better the PC they do have gathering dust in the corner and (c) make a little more on the printing.

Out of cents now ..

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« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2006, 03:04:55 PM »
The SCTA is not convinced about the concept of electricity , much less electronics.
Many feel it has not been perfected yet.
Be careful.   LOL

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