Wind Tunnel Testing for Bonneville

[SPARKY]

Well if we are going to have class consolidation I prefer to not contaminate Special Construction by bringing in Mod Roadsters.

It makes a lot more sense to just have a Mod Roadster class--- you choose to put the driver and eng where ever you want to between the axles---that way there will be enough protests to keep everybody in line

[thundersalt]

"I formally nominate Eddie Umland for Roadster Committee Chairperson An intelligent, level headed and well spoken racer who can help the sport No lol here, I am serious.

DW"
 






But he could use a hair cut

[krusty]

I'm with Dan, Willi, and Brian. He needs to be on the Committee. Enough said, I don't need to get buried in politics (man, I miss Tony P. on here).

vic

[Eddieschopshop]

The only thing I am qualified to do is stir the pot!   I only think I know the RMR records since I have now built 2 well 3 if you include Cole Cutlers Chassis,  but I only did the frame on that car. 

[Stan Back]

I'm the official pot-stirrer, no matter the roadster class!  I've worked hard at it and don't kneed (sp-ok) some long-haired, Northern California liberal, who "knows the record" (but does he know the rules?) newbie trying to take the chair.  Apparently he got scared about RMRs and went and built a streamliner.  How can the roadster guys trust a guy like that!

Stan

[Dynoroom]

Actually Mike, the class was born from the fertile mind of the late Ron Benham After a few years of back and forth I lost that battle and now we see what the class has mutated to Darn Ron passed away too soon to see what he had brought forth.

DW

Oh, I remember where REMR came from, just like AIR, It came from a need for more chances to set a record or win El Mirage championships.

We have enough classes!!!

Should we talk about "M" at El Mirage? 

[thundersalt]

All this REMR bashing I'm starting to get a complex 

[Eddieschopshop]

I was bashing Comp coupes today also... maybe I should start a new thread.

[dw230]

Oh - Comp Coupes

Ron had an answer for that one too. Super Coupe - anything goes. Let your imagination wander.

How about one class, anything, wide open, fastest wins. One trophy available.

DW

[Seldom Seen Slim]

Yeah -- kinda like the class Ed Shadle and Richard Noble and Roscoe and those guys are in.  One class, anything goes, one trophy.

[dw230]

I missed class consolidation as Sparky mentions at the top of this page. I can tell you that when REMR class was discussed I asked if consolidation was an option. OMG - the out cry from the standard mod roadster guys was a +11 on the volume knob. The perceived problem was that all mod roadster records would fall to the rear engine guys. A quick scan of the rule book shows this to be false. In fact, some mod roadster records are held by high boy roadsters in comparative classes.

Go figure. You guys are on your own now, I agree with flowbench - too many classes. If you need a record or points championship build to the existing rules, don't lobby for a new class. Fuel pickup trucks - blah.

DW

[thundersalt]

xx/CFC, xx/CBFC

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[Eddieschopshop]

A super couple class is exactly what I needed when I first was looking for something to build.  Because I wanted to use a transaxle it limited my options.  But we do have an option for no rules fastest wins,  its basically the Hot Rod trophy.  Fastest single pass of the week regardless of class or lack of class as is fitting to some. 

I can't see any inherent advantage in rear or front modified roadster,  but that ship has sailed.  The rear modifieds will continue to bump their records.  as we all know it does take time to build and then dial in a car to its true potential.  It will take a few years,  but it has been a great for new blood to start. 

I am just going to build bikes from now on  talk about too many classes. 

To keep the rules/aero discussion alive..  If you can't tape door gaps how can you have a fiberglass repop without any door or window gaps?  Coupe or roadster for that matter.  There are 3 or 4 Topolino type coupes which are all repop drag racing bodies with no gaps,  no door handle recesses etc.  None of the characteristics that would be on an "exact replica"..  I could go all day with this.

[desotoman]

What about Compressed Air class - C/AIR. A displacement change can make for a maybe competitive non-Chevy powered roadster.

DW

As I recall a rule change was submitted to expand the class a couple of engine sizes, but did not pass. I am fine with the way it is.

For the record, I personally think it's an absolute abomination what some RMR guys have been allowed to get away with.  

I agree. Just like NHRA Funny Cars, don't look like anything you can buy at a car dealer.

Looking at the roadster in your pic it looks every bit as much like a lakester as any RMR.   Are you the kettle or the pot?

I was not referring to the length of the cars, I am talking about the actual body. Some, not all of the REMR's, put so many add ons to the original body that you cannot tell it is a roadster body. That is where the 65% rule came from. IMO it is a case of pushing the limit way to far.

The modified roadster you see in my avatar was built over 20 years ago and I guarantee you can tell it is a 27 ford T body from the firewall back. The car was built by Mel Swain who builds cars for a living and this was his personal car.

I missed class consolidation as Sparky mentions at the top of this page. I can tell you that when REMR class was discussed I asked if consolidation was an option. OMG - the out cry from the standard mod roadster guys was a +11 on the volume knob. The perceived problem was that all mod roadster records would fall to the rear engine guys. A quick scan of the rule book shows this to be false. In fact, some mod roadster records are held by high boy roadsters in comparative classes.

Go figure. You guys are on your own now, I agree with flowbench - too many classes. If you need a record or points championship build to the existing rules, don't lobby for a new class. Fuel pickup trucks - blah.

DW

I am not in favor of combining classes. IMO REMR's do have an advantage, but that is for another topic.

I agree we have enough classes, we don't need anymore or any less, the classes should be frozen in place. But with human nature the way it is there will always be controversy and opinions on how many classes we have and how many we need.

Tom G.