National Paved Mile Records

[jl222]

John,

The other organizations use a direct copy of the SCTA rule book and classes(some added). If their book retains the Lexan rule it should be applied.

DW

  Dan I know one reason Lexan is required at Bville and EL Mirage is because of the holdup on racing and the difficult clean up
after a wreck
  Asphalt has better traction and there should not be as many spins or wrecks and cleanup would be much faster if there is.

  Maybe SCTA should consider not requiring this rule on pavement.

 Hate to have someone turned away this weekend.

   JL222

[dw230]

OK John

DW

[tortoise]

If pavement racing becomes the only game in town, racers might want to consider other formats than a 132 foot trap at the end of 1 or 1.5 miles. The Cook shootout shows there is interest in real world records. A track long enough for 1.5 miles is also long enough for a 2 way flying kilometer. 

[Truckedup]

 I race a bike at Ohio and Loring and like the idea of the honor system for engine displacement. No one get's busted for 4 cc's and it's more of a run what you brung attitude based on a man's word.

[Malcolm UK]

..... there is interest in real world records. A track long enough for 1.5 miles is also long enough for a 2 way flying kilometer. 

For bikes setting world records you will need four (4) kilometres of course length for speeds up to 310mph and for over 310 mph you will need seven (7) kilometre of track length. We do not have tracks that meet these criteria in the UK. So no straight line FIM records can be set over here. The FIA do not have such rigid criteria for courses but they may do on the grounds of safety.

All engines are measured.

 

[RansomT]

..... there is interest in real world records. A track long enough for 1.5 miles is also long enough for a 2 way flying kilometer. 

For bikes setting world records you will need four (4) kilometres of course length for speeds up to 310mph and for over 310 mph you will need seven (7) kilometre of track length. We do not have tracks that meet these criteria in the UK. So no straight line FIM records can be set over here. The FIA do not have such rigid criteria for courses but they may do on the grounds of safety.

All engines are measured.

 

The longest runway in the world is 4 km and it's in Russia.

[Speed Limit 1000]

The Shuttle Landing Facility covers 500 acres (200 ha) and has a single runway, 15/33. It is one of the longest runways in the world, at 4,572 m (15,000 ft), and is 91.4 meters (300 ft) wide.[1] (Despite its length, astronaut Jack R. Lousma stated that he would have preferred the runway to be "half as wide and twice as long".[3]) Additionally, the SLF has 305 meters (1,000 ft) of paved overruns at each end.

[tortoise]

The longest runway in the world is 4 km and it's in Russia.

The LTA website says theirs is over 2 5/8 mile: that's 4224.5 meters.  Mojave Mile website says theirs is 12,500 ft., or 3.8 km.

[tortoise]

For bikes setting world records you will need four (4) kilometres of course length for speeds up to 310mph and for over 310 mph you will need seven (7) kilometre of track length. . . . The FIA do not have such rigid criteria for courses but they may do on the grounds of safety.

I would think going for the fastest wheel-driven car records on a runway gets problematical without consideration of the stopping distance available. Is there a tire that could take being accelerated to over 450 mph in a mile and a half?

Should be great for the smaller displacement cars, though. FIA has classes for 250 and 350cc cars, by the way.

[Malcolm UK]

Should have been clear that only those claiming World records would have their engine measured.

Yes the tracks over 4.0km would work for anyone not capable of getting to 300+ mph. However the governing body might have read about the LTA track record and say that it is too short for anyone to challenge Bill's motorcycle speed. If they did demand a track for the higher speeds it would need to be a 7km length.

Would any meeting be viable with classes limited by speed capability to the 'smaller' cubic capacities?

The tyre makers would need to comment about suitable rubber for high speed pavement use, but I think talk of speeds in excess of 350 mph is somewhat premature (and may not be possible wheeldriven). 

Agree totally that it is the stopping which would concern organisers and venue owners.  With a UK jet car running 329mph average speed [through the centrally located quarter mile] the team had to have a temporary road closure outside the facility they had hired (a public road crossed the alignment of the airfield runway) just for the 'worst case scenario' of double chute failure.

[Truckedup]

The longest runway in the world is 4 km and it's in Russia.

The LTA website says theirs is over 2 5/8 mile: that's 4224.5 meters.  Mojave Mile website says theirs is 12,500 ft., or 3.8 km.

 The officials at Loring say it the 13 th longest runway in the world.

[jacksoni]

Not all runways are flat/level/same elevation end to end- For instance Wilmington has a noticeable down hill at about the half mile mark. It may be difficult to compare "records" set at different venues for reasons such as this.

[dw230]

I understand the number of runs/certified record issue and have an idea for a solution. The downhill at Wilmington does not concern me Jack. I feel a venue is what it is and I doubt a few degrees of pitch would make a difference.

DW

[Dynoroom]

Just as altitude, prevailing winds, and surface type / condition will have different effects on performance.
If drag racing can have national (international?) records so can mile events IMO.

[tortoise]

Would any meeting be viable with classes limited by speed capability to the 'smaller' cubic capacities?

The currently scheduled 1.5 mile meets could easily add a set of lights to time a one way flying kilo, just for information purposes. A population of vehicles with known world record potential would result, and enough interest might be generated.