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Offline bbarn

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New helmet time
« on: June 02, 2015, 01:11:22 PM »
Time for a new helmet. Looking around it appears that we are still using the SA2010 SNELL certified helmet that is recent Mfg dated? There isn't a new standard or an upcoming standard that I should wait a few weeks to get an SA2015 or anything like that that anyone knows of is there?
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2015, 01:27:39 PM »
From the Snell website it looks like the new helmets won't be available for sale until October 1, 2015.
http://www.smf.org/standards/sa/2015/SA2015releaseNotes.pdf
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2015, 01:29:48 PM »
The SCTA rule book is your friend here.

Section 3.A.2 Driver's Helmet:

Paraphrasing... Snell SA2005 is good until 2017. Snell SA 2010 is good until 2022.

You are always allowed to use newer/better safety gear.
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2015, 01:45:59 PM »
The SCTA rule book is your friend here.

Section 3.A.2 Driver's Helmet:

Paraphrasing... Snell SA2005 is good until 2017. Snell SA 2010 is good until 2022.

You are always allowed to use newer/better safety gear.

No book at work, this is exactly what I was looking for. I knew there was a thread here on it back when the SA2010 came out but couldn't find it.

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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2015, 03:09:15 PM »
Bonneville Speed Trials motorcycle event still lists Snell M2010 or DOT FMVSS 218 as required for this years event if coming out in August.
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2015, 03:42:13 PM »
SCTA Bike helmet M2005 or newer.....

I tried  to get Simpson to make me a new helmet but they said they could, but they would put a Snell "SA" sticker in it. That, as I am told will not meet SCTA requirements the helmet has to be a Snell "M" :-(
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2015, 06:39:16 PM »
The M's just required for bikes, right, Johnnie?
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2015, 06:54:39 PM »
That's correct Stan. From what I understand the SA helmets include some sort of fire retardant material that the M doesn't have. There must be some other difference between M and SA too or I would think the SA would be ok for bikes. I haven't looked that hard in to it just know that SA is for cars and motorcycle streamliners and M is for bikes.
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2015, 07:05:35 PM »
The M's just required for bikes, right, Johnnie?

That's the way I see it. To bad Simpson wanted to do the helmet, but I was afraid it would end up being a dust collector.


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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2015, 08:15:45 AM »
    Some other considerations on new helmets. First, Size matters. If you can go some place where you can try on the helmet that you plan to buy. I had to return my latest SA 2010 twice before the third one fit. I ended up with an XL size. I'm not a big guy and my last one was an M size. Second, consider your driving position, especially if you use it in two different cars. Get the largest eye port possible so that you can view all of the controls without having to adjust the helmet position. Third, Ventilation. If you use a vent fan system make sure that the inlet clears the cage bars. Fourth, Excess movement of the helmet on the noggin. You want it snug but not loose or too tight to get your ears in position while putting it on. Cost shouldn't be a concern if you value your head. I'm sure that there are more things that the helmet people check, but these are some that I found.
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2015, 09:01:38 AM »
http://www.racinghelmetguide.com/auto-helmet-ratings.html

That is good information, Makes me wonder why a SA Snell helmet is not accepted by SCTA foe motorcycle classes, especially coming from a major manufacturer.

I was going to have the helmet made with the eye port raised slightly for better view while tucked on the bike. The helmet is otherwise a M Snell, but the change would require them to tag it with SA Snell.

To bad, I think it would be safer to see better. It would be nice to find out the rule book had a typo and the SA was omitted by accident.

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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2015, 09:37:04 AM »
It is not a typo, but you could submit a rule change...
Most SA helmet shells are larger than M and are not designed for aero. 
It would seem that just a raised eyeport would not make a helmet SA.  I suspect they are altering a different helmet if it has to be marked SA. 
Let us know how your rule change goes...  :cheers:
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2015, 10:41:59 AM »
Nice to know my 2010 is good till 2022. Thanks
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Re: New helmet time
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2015, 11:31:38 AM »
It is not a typo, but you could submit a rule change...
Most SA helmet shells are larger than M and are not designed for aero. 
It would seem that just a raised eyeport would not make a helmet SA.  I suspect they are altering a different helmet if it has to be marked SA. 
Let us know how your rule change goes...  :cheers:

Good idea Stainless, I not that quick on the draw about asking for rule changes, but there are times when changes would help the folks racing.

Not a different helmet, same one just raised port, maybe a testing thing if you make any changes. I don't manufacture helmets, so I leave it to them to make that call.

I'm sure they are following the regulation that governs the call on the Snell designation.
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