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Offline Larry C

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« on: August 18, 2006, 11:32:00 AM »
Congratulations to the Arrow/Williams liner on an amazing effort with a 500cc engine. I believe the NSU record is an FIM record so if the Arrow/Williams group can get to the BUB event , which is FIM certified, and repeat their effort they will truely break the NSU record and go into the World Land Speed record Books.
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2006, 12:43:18 PM »
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Congratulations to the Arrow/Williams liner on an amazing effort with a 500cc engine. I believe the NSU record is an FIM record so if the Arrow/Williams group can get to the BUB event , which is FIM certified, and repeat their effort they will truely break the NSU record and go into the World Land Speed record Books.


Look again
Their record may ALSO be an fim record, but clearly in the SCTA/BNIrule book is the NSU record they were running on.
This accomplishment is NOT to be downplayed by political meandering about fim verses SCTA.
SPEED IS SPEED and our friends at Arrow have done an exemplary job!

The potential for a team from Windsor Canada (of which Detroit is a suburb) is extremely difficult.  They are amateur racers with virtually no outside backing. (like most of us) and the cost to attend two meets is pretty hard to sustain.

Congratulations to Bob Williams, team owner and Gary Hensley, the brave rider on a job really, really, well done.  


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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2006, 02:28:14 PM »
Gary and guys---what a great accomplishment---and to do it the hard way---having to take an average from a lesser mile of your first runs---WOW!!!!!!! again congratulations!!!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2006, 02:55:03 PM »
Once again, congratulations on the record by the Arrow team, this is a great team with a lot of heart who have been serious competitors for many years.  It is good to seem them reap the reward for their efforts. Regarding M/C liners, a big pat on the back to the Ack Attack team and rider Rocky Robinson on this mornings 338mph exit speed. The ultimate M/C Streamliner FIM record competition next month at the BUB event should be amazing. Ack Attack: 330+ to date; EZ Hook 330+ and BUB 300 to date. Dave Campos of Easyrider still holds it at 322, the potential to break the record more than once is there.  It has been a long time since we have seen M/C liner wars,  and the Arrow record is a great opening round "let the games begin"!!
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2006, 09:20:04 PM »
An excellent job well done blokes  :D
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2006, 10:45:54 PM »
Outstanding......it took 50 years to go faster then the NSU...and they did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
World record.....NOT.....SCTA is not FIM certified......BUB Meet yes.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2006, 04:03:38 PM »
Thanks to everyone for your kind words.

Team Arrow Racing believes that fastest is fastest regardless of where or when as long as the rules are the same.

We built our bike to compete against the NSU record not the SCTA-NSU record.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2006, 06:41:33 PM »
To Gary's comment - he said that the bike is unfortunately a little bit or more bend when he twist and shout after the tire blow, was real a hard rolling, still he got the chute out which protect him from the worst. So there will be no change to go BUB meet.
By the way, this was a SCTA record...... :D and Heinz Herz congratulate, too, to this record.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2006, 01:54:16 AM »
Very fast is very fast be it SCTA, FIM, or BUB.  Congratulations to the Arrows Williams team on an outstanding effort.  I'm sure Willie Hertz would would be delighted too.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2006, 04:32:53 PM »
The Arrow motorcycle did not get the record. They qualified in the last mile on the down run. On the return run the bike crashed in the last mile and did not trip the photo cells. The qualifer and the back up has to be timed in the same mile, in this case the 5th mile. Therefore no record.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2006, 04:59:05 PM »
The SCTA website lists them with a new record (unofficial) {?} .
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2006, 06:24:16 PM »
Stan
We are in the process of verfying all records. This take a little time. This was caught by Dan Warner. I have a 3" stack of run sheets to go thru prior to any record becomes official.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2006, 08:43:02 PM »
More rules.  Fast is fast.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2006, 09:42:58 AM »
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The Arrow motorcycle did not get the record. They qualified in the last mile on the down run.
Glen Barrett
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Glen
With all due respect to Dan and his knowledge of the rules, when I review section 1 paragraph G in the SCTA rule book it says "only the fastest average speed will be used for record calculation.  Two sentences later "Qualifying runs that exceed the current class record are to be considered qualifying runs."  It doesn't say that the fastest down speed has to be used for calculating the average.
However, this will all come out in the wash....Lots of paperwork after the event.....and most of us trust in the wisdom of the people in charge. :-D
In the end I think the Arrow team will have their record certification.

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2006, 10:26:04 AM »
"Qualifying runs that exceed the current class record are to be considered qualifying runs."

Rick & others,

The above quote is the rule. The Arrow team did not qualify in the middle mile on the qualifying pass. They did a 211.9 in the last mile. The backup run had a 228 middle and no time in the that last mile. Average of the two middle mles can not be used for the record as they did not qualify.

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