Saving the Salt

[JC Sparks]

 Something I am wondering about. If Intrepid was made to stop mining,  who will run the pumps?

[Sumner]

Something I am wondering about. If Intrepid was made to stop mining,  who will run the pumps?

Possibly you and I.  Where I live, SE Utah, the uranium industry left huge uranium tailing piles where there were mills. The one near here was cleaned up by us the tax payers for about 100 million if I remember right and I just read that the one left in Moab might approach or exceed 1 billion to clean it up.  This is happening all over the west (EPA spill in Colo just the other day).  The salt doesn't constitute a health hazard so maybe money from one of these 'super funds' couldn't be used but maybe somehow our tax dollars could be put to use if the mill shut down?  Tricky situation,

Sumner

[rgdavid]

I would have thought that any core samples need to be done with the presence of an attorny or bailiff to witness.

[Milwaukee Midget]

I would have thought that any core samples need to be done with the presence of an attorny or bailiff to witness.

Tangential to your point, given the number of studies that have been done, my concern is that the evidence that has been collected is comparable from one study to the next, and that the findings are conclusive enough that even a politician can understand them.

[nrhs sales]

You guys need to be really careful.  If the politicians decide that is is a great idea to protect the salt flats they might just decide to designate it a "wilderness" area.  If that happens that means ALL motor vehicles are prohibited from entering the area.  At that point we will never be allowed to race on the salt again.

Is that what we want?

I have seen this happen before for groups thought it was a great idea to stop logging operations in forests so they could have great riding areas.  They did get the logging stopped but also got themselves banned from the forest as well.

[jl222]

You guys need to be really careful.  If the politicians decide that is is a great idea to protect the salt flats they might just decide to designate it a "wilderness" area.  If that happens that means ALL motor vehicles are prohibited from entering the area.  At that point we will never be allowed to race on the salt again.

Is that what we want?

I have seen this happen before for groups thought it was a great idea to stop logging operations in forests so they could have great riding areas.  They did get the logging stopped but also got themselves banned from the forest as well.

  Yeah that worries me also, but if something is not done we won't be able to race their anyway.

              JL222

[fredvance]

Anybody going out to the Salt this weekend?

[Sumner]

Anybody going out to the Salt this weekend?

From Cook's Facebook page ( http://landspeedevents.com/blog/ ) ...

New Speed Demon is ready to run.

2015 Shootout Date: September 17-21 AFD 130819 006 150x150 Mike Cooks Bonneville Shootout (current entries)

8/9/15
Despite the recent storm that deposited rain on the international course that we have already prepped for the
Venturi Buckeye Bullet’s private record attempt, we currently feel that the rain did not damage the course. We will re-prep the course for the Venturi/Ohio State team at the end of next week in preparation for them to begin running on August 17th. We currently have ten miles with soft conditions and some muddiness at the 11 mile mark. If the weather cooperates, things are looking very good for the shootout in September. If dry weather favors us we may have use of the 11th mile as well since most cars will be quite significantly slowed down by that point.

 

Sumner

[Speed Limit 1000]

 

[WOODY@DDLLC]

"New Speed Demon is ready to run." And maybe a couple more: http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/the-worlds-fastest-cars/?utm_source=The+Chelsea+Magazine+Company+Ltd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=6046076_RCE+Editorial+Aug+2015&dm_i=6NM,3LL6K,55RS3S,CXH63,1

[nrhs sales]

all i am saying is be careful what you wish for.

[RichFox]

From Cook's Facebook page ( http://landspeedevents.com/blog/ ) ...


8/9/15
Despite the recent storm that deposited rain on the international course that we have already prepped for the
Venturi Buckeye Bullet’s private record attempt, we currently feel that the rain did not damage the course. We will re-prep the course for the Venturi/Ohio State team at the end of next week in preparation for them to begin running on August 17th. We currently have ten miles with soft conditions and some muddiness at the 11 mile mark. If the weather cooperates, things are looking very good for the shootout in September. If dry weather favors us we may have use of the 11th mile as well since most cars will be quite significantly slowed down by that point.

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Sumner

[/quote]I had lunch with Bob Dalton and Don Jackson yesterday. They told me that Cook told them he would not have a long as hoped for course. I was going to pay the entry, but not if the course so no longer than at WoS. So at this time, it is my understanding Bob is running at WoS

[saltwheels262]

If that happens that means ALL motor vehicles are prohibited from entering the area. 

That is a good point, Dan. Something to think about.

Franey

[Milwaukee Midget]

all i am saying is be careful what you wish for.

The end result is that we end up not racing - regardless of the approach.

The trump card in our favor is that the Bonneville Salt Flats International Speedway is recognized as a race course by the BLM.  By its very designation, we have the moral high ground - something important in any public discussion of the topic, and the very reason I think we should ALWAYS use the entire name - and probably the legal high ground in any discussion as to how the salt flats are to be administrated.

We have the same amount to lose either way - I say hold the BLM to task.

I'm much more worried about Intrepid cleaning us out.  Once that's happened, we're done forever.  I'm less worried about my fellow conservationists shutting us down.  Most of us can be reasoned with, and I assure you, given the choice of racing on the salt or mining of potash to continue monoculture agribusiness expansion, we've probably got allies in places you would never imagine.

It's nor black and white, it's not left and right - there's a LOT of grey right there in the middle, and we need to start claiming it now.

 

[maj]

Intrepid have hard salt the depth and quality they want because its a controlled environment

short and long term this sort of thing may be our best option , much easier to control a pond with defined boundrys  than such a huge expanse of salt flat
a thin white crust is fine for tourism but makes a poor track