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Offline Buickguy3

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #495 on: July 20, 2015, 10:12:17 PM »
  There's always a trek to the Holy Grail of bikes to Sturgis. That happens to take place the same week. Can't run the bikes there but the fun is good.
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Re: 2nd Mining company to start mining on Bonneville Salt Flats
« Reply #496 on: July 20, 2015, 11:18:07 PM »
  Where's Jerry Spence when the World needs him?
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Re: Speed Week 2015 is cancelled
« Reply #497 on: July 20, 2015, 11:36:32 PM »
To the SCTA/BNI staff, thank you for getting the word out to everyone as early as possible. I know this was not an easy decision for you to make, but you made sure to put driver/rider safety first.

I second Sporty Dan wholeheartedly. This situation sucks, but I truly appreciate SCTA making the call, making it right , and making it in a timely fashion. I am sending SCTA a donation and hope others will too. In a couple of months when our collective outrage subsides, the good folks at SCTA will be working on our behalf for future meets and they need our help. Best I know, two years cancellation in a row is unprecedented. This outcome sucks, but I truly appreciate the timely decision and thank SCTA for all the effort that went into trying to make the event happen.
Jim I think a donation to SCTA Is a fine idea. I am a volunteer but will also send a donation, if SCTA fails it won't mater what the salt conditions are WE WILL ALL BE UP THE CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE. Lets all step up and send SCTA what one tank ,of fuel would cost in the tow rig and send a donation to Save the Salt also, they are working for us and we need to support them.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #498 on: July 20, 2015, 11:50:46 PM »
  Briz, whenever I feel sorry for myself I go for a drive past the Local Vererans Administration Hospital and try to build up the guts to go in and ask the first person I see who is missing body parts How his day is going.  The last time I did it was about ten years ago when I went to visit Marlo's life time friend, Captain Bax, who was there for back surgery and doing fine.  By the time I walked back through the lobby and saw the remains of soldiers who were only there in body, or a part of a body, or hunched over having a conversation with no one, the tears started to flow  and I swore to God that I would never complain or whine about my troubles again without driving back to that Hospital.  I am ashamed to say I still haven't gone back inside that Hospital since but that's because I refuse to feel sorry for Myself or anyone else who lost money or time but is still alive and well.
  Your not the first person nor will you be the last to get shit on, and I am not saying this to embarrass you or anyone else but who gives a f*ck about your losing some money.  Get a Life.                                                                               Bob Drury
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #499 on: July 20, 2015, 11:57:29 PM »
Good point Bob, not that big a deal to not be able to go play with my race car when you think about you how lucky you are to have your health and the money to WASTE on a race car.
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Re: 2nd Mining company to start mining on Bonneville Salt Flats
« Reply #500 on: July 21, 2015, 03:28:31 AM »
Large-scale: Work together to have a 10-12 mile long x 2-mile wide section declared a National Historic Landmark, have the gov't. berm that section, & mining companies pump brine into it to preserve/restore it?

Small-Scale: Tear out Land's End road, berm it/brine it, and run a short course starting at the bend in the road?

Additional Venue: Organize a "Wendover Mile" on the 8,000' runways at the Wendover Airport same time as SW. More racer/spectator dollars for Wendover, racers could do one or both, & there'd be a fallback August event when the Salt is wet?

And FWIW, your car or bike may be in one or more of my photos from past Bonneville meets: https://www.pinterest.com/96fxd/bonneville-salt-flats/  If you'd like to have the original full-resolution file, please message me.

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Re: Speed Week 2015 is cancelled
« Reply #501 on: July 21, 2015, 06:13:12 AM »
We at the LTA are sorry to hear about SpeedWeek and have had a bunch of calls from racers looking for a place to run. 
The answer is yes, we will fit racers in this weekend that head east.

All the best and hope to see some more weary travelers in a few days

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #502 on: July 21, 2015, 06:15:37 AM »
Well, I dont know what I said to P*ss you off Bob. Didn't seem to me that I was making such a big deal about it.
I know very well that many have worse things to deal with and that some perspective is a good thing, but that doesn't mean that lesser troubles amount to nothing at all.
I dont expect anyone else to give a f*ck about my finances, but you'll forgive me if I do!
If I lived in -say- California, or somewhere in a 1000 mile radius of the salt, I'd shrug and hope for better luck next year.
But I'm not there and getting there is a major undertaking that consumes a lot of time and resources that others in my life who I care about are starting to get resentful of. And I can understand that, especially as much of it has been for nowt.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #503 on: July 21, 2015, 07:32:25 AM »
Feel for the folk of Wendover.
Yet another cash cow slaughtered. Lots of businesses’ out of pocket as it is a major logistics operation to cater for an extra 6000 people for a small town.
Hopefully they will still be in business next year.
The atmosphere last year as droves were leaving could be felt.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #504 on: July 21, 2015, 07:53:55 AM »
I feel for you Briz (not Bob) This was going to be my first time on the salt and I'm 3000k away and I'm pissed but when I built my 55 Supercharged Triumph I built as a 50-60's 1/4 mile drag bike with lots of help from John Hobbs so now i'll put the slick on the back and go drag racing.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #505 on: July 21, 2015, 08:29:30 AM »
I think Briz is more in touch with the spirit of the times than BD is---some handle disappointment  better than others

dry lakes racing is always subject to the capricious nature of Mother Nature---there generally is a point sometime we return to brief periods of lucidity --some briefer--than others--- well --

we may just have to cover ours with axle fairings
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #506 on: July 21, 2015, 09:18:58 AM »
Well, Briz, it IS a bummer for us - a MAJOR bummer for you.  We're going to take the money SW would have cost us and do something we've wanted to do for years and haven't done because of the salt addiction - park the race car for a few weeks and go skiing down in the "colonies".  NZ to be exact.
And speaking of the "colonies", I was down under at DLRA back in '04 and loved it as a spectator.  We may (all of us actually) have to get used to the fact that it is the only place left to race (and even it gets rained out).  But the DLRA salt is many feet thick and does go for 100 miles so at least there's that.  Be a HUGE haul for you unfortunately.
At least with a bike if you decide to keep them in the states and hope, you have three more chances to race, while us cage drivers have only two.

And Charlie R, don't feel too bad for the folks of Wendover.  I heard once that they (the casinos at least) lose about a Million bucks during Speedweek because racers don't gamble and we track salt all over the place.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #507 on: July 21, 2015, 09:47:25 AM »
I seriously doubt there is a money LOSS of any kind other than from the racers or spectators in Wendover during Speed Week...

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #508 on: July 21, 2015, 10:10:25 AM »
  Briz, first of all I want to apologize for taking out on you my own personal frustrations.  I want to convey to you what I think most of us feel about the information on the future of all of our's beloved Salt Flats that has come to light in the past two weeks.
  We all may never set foot on the Salt Flats again. Some are nearing the end of their time on this Earth.  We have lost many long time Racers in the last year.  Some like You or I may have every nickel to our Name invested in our Race Vehicles which we may never have a place to take them again.  Some were about to Race for the First Time ever.  But one thing is consistent throughout our Sport.  We are all heartsick when tragedy strikes another Racer through injury, death, or just plain bad luck.  The difference this time is that this tragedy is real, and it has struck each and every one of us.
  No one wants to quit.  The thing that sets us apart from most people is that every one of us has had to deal with some sort of adversity or failure out of our own control either building or driving our racers.  Perhaps the motor pukes on the first pass.  You suck it up, go back home and fix it for next year.  That's life, and very few of us (You and I included) won't quit until our last breath.  Most of us will do what ever We can to fight this battle to save the Salt Flats but the odds are not currently in our favor.
  Very few Land Speed Racers are wealthy and I don't imagine You are either.  What all of us share is our commitment to risk everything We own, including our lives to follow our dreams.  I spent most of the past eight hours stewing over my previous rant.  I felt terrible and still do about aiming my frustration at you, and the only thing I would change looking back is to have made the same rant with the Headline: To everyone.
  I kept thinking about guys from all corners of the Earth that have been building their racers over many years unable to proceed any faster than they could afford.  And now we over the last two weeks discover that without a miracle from Mother Nature that Good Old Corporate America may soon finish off their fifty year destruction of our beloved Salt Flats.
  In the case of the four wheel race vehicles and I am sure even many of the Bikes, Most are special purpose built and probably now or soon junk. Sure, we still will have the running gear, but Here in the States, used Race equipment in excellent shape is usually worth fifty cents on a dollar, tops.
  My anger was not actually with you, it was more my own realization that my lifelong dream may be over, but as they say, I'll always have the memories (and this one won't be a very good one).
  I could go on and on but suffice to say I let my frustrations and personal emotions get the better of my judgement.
  As stupid as this sounds, I hope all of You folks from abroad Can find someway to make the best of your visit and buy a Lottery Ticket, hopefully you will win and be back.
                                                                                               With deepest apologies, Bob Drury
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #509 on: July 21, 2015, 10:34:18 AM »
Well said Bob.

Fact is we are all going through the classic stages of grief each in our own way.
That annual trip out to the salt flats, for many of us is a blow off valve for daily frustrations.
A place to get completely away from the world and "unplug" a bit and just recharge the batteries.

The classic steps are denial (this can't be happening, they will find a way to run the event), Anger (what many felt yesterday when they realized a year of planning was down the tube), bargaining (trying to find some alternative solution to the need to visit with old friends and watch that magic sunrise one more time, or listen to the silence), Depression ( I give up I am done with this circus), Acceptance (ok it is done, we have no control over the weather, we knew up front this was always a possibility lets move on).

We are all probably somewhere on that continuum, taking a deep breath and figuring out what we do next.
Me I spent a bunch of money on new photo equipment specifically for use at Bonneville upgraded camera bodies and new lenses -- well guess I will have to use it to take pictures of other stuff this year. The leave time is already approved, and coworkers have already juggled schedules so I could have the time off, so I better figure out a good use for that time and plan an alternate photo safari for mid-August.

The crews who were thrashing on the new cars can take a day off and chill then get back to the remaining details without the rush. Folks who were waiting on parts to arrive can relax, sit on a stool and listen to the car and see what it tells them needs to be done next (kansasbadman method). Folks who made travel plans now get a chance to take an unplanned adventure, and just might stumble on something new and different.

Sit back enjoy the sunrise and take tomorrow as it comes.

I guess I will be forced to take a long slow drive in the mountains and take pictures of stuff I normally don't have the time to go see.