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Re: Intrepid Potash Inc. what do they do?
« Reply #435 on: July 20, 2015, 12:22:22 PM »
Given that it took millions of years to evaporate a sod off sized lake the size of a small country to create the salt flats, then it's hard to see how pumping depleted saline solution "waste" back onto to the salt is going to replicate what nature created. I'm no chemist but as DaveB has just pointed out, if you extract potash and other elements, then what's pumped back is not likely to create the same sort of surface. A bit like trying to make concrete but without the cement. This is a sad state of affairs.

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Re: 2nd Mining company to start mining on Bonneville Salt Flats
« Reply #436 on: July 20, 2015, 12:40:35 PM »
I agree with Terry, Bob, Thomas, Louise and so many others:

 No more Mr. Nice Guy!

The diplomacy of the past 25 years has not achieved the desired outcome. The outlook is grim. Now is the time to start fighting for this PROTECTED geological marvel steeped in history, our beloved Bonneville Salt Flats.
I'm ready to be all in with some serious seed money to hire "Mr. Spence."

Willi

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I agree with both statements, A. it is time to move past working with the Potash Mining Companies and work for the preservation of our racing venue. B. Lets keep or win BLM on our side.

The second statement is true as well, Kevin Oliver of BLM informed me when I sent him the video in this thread that BLM denied mining permits for this new operation in 2012 and again in 2015. I would guess that denying permits to mine is probably the biggest stick the BLM has. It would be best to keep them working on our side and apply pressure in the other areas. The troublesome part is the big name politicians on the list above. Politicians cannot say no to big money special interest. That is where we have to have strength in numbers.

If a darter snail can stop a Dam project we should be able to stop a surface mining project.

Walk softly and hire a big time lawyer!

My 2 cents,

BR



P.S. In spite of everything, we should still work with the BLM, whenever possible. There are people that have it in their power to possibly halt (man-made) mineral depletion.

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Re: 2nd Mining company to start mining on Bonneville Salt Flats
« Reply #437 on: July 20, 2015, 12:48:59 PM »
Save The Salt was successful in getting the first mining company to replenish the salt.  Are they still the best organization to take the fight to this new threat?
Thanks, Billy
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Re: 2nd Mining company to start mining on Bonneville Salt Flats
« Reply #438 on: July 20, 2015, 01:10:52 PM »
Maybe Save The Salt is not the organization to take on the fight.  I just called the contact listed on their site -

Stuart Gosswein
Sr. Director, Federal Government Affairs
Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA)
1317 F Street, NW, Suite 500, Washington, DC  20004
202/783-6007, ext. 30, stuartg@sema.org

and he didn't seem to be aware of the issue at all.  I forwarded him all of the links listed above.
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Re: 2nd Mining company to start mining on Bonneville Salt Flats
« Reply #439 on: July 20, 2015, 01:25:59 PM »
  I find that news less than comforting.  Someone please Correct me if I am wrong but I believe He was the Spokesman for "our side"  during last weeks live chat aired by the Salt Lake City Tribune.                                                     Bob
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Speed Week 2015 is cancelled
« Reply #440 on: July 20, 2015, 02:10:34 PM »
According to the SCTA Facebook page the event has been cancelled.

"*****Speed Week 2015 Has Been Cancelled*****
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The SCTA President/Race Director Bill Lattin & the BNI Chairman spent this morning (July 20th) on the salt. The most they could find was 2 1/4 miles of salt suitable for a safe race course. The rest of the salt flats are either wet or wet and muddy. If the wet salt gets dry, future events could be possible."

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #441 on: July 20, 2015, 02:20:21 PM »
http://www.scta-bni.org/

It is official it has been cancelled.

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SPEED WEEK 2015 Canceled - Hotel Reservations?
« Reply #442 on: July 20, 2015, 02:52:56 PM »
I'm sure there are plenty of people in the same boat as me. Booked the room as soon as it was available to ensure a place to stay for Speed Week 2015. Now that it's canceled, what do we do? They have land speed racers and fans of the event in a compromised position. The deposit, due upon booking, is the full price of the reservation PLUS it's non-refundable. Any chance we'll see a refund?

This just makes the bad news that much more devastating.

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Re: SPEED WEEK 2015 Canceled - Hotel Reservations?
« Reply #443 on: July 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM »
Just posted on the SCTA Facebook page:

Attention All Speed Week Participants/Spectators:

 The Wendover Nugget Hotel as offered to return money to people with reservations for Speed Week for one week only.


Good luck!

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Re: Speed Week 2015 is cancelled
« Reply #444 on: July 20, 2015, 03:29:23 PM »
 
  Could be a big year for USFRA or the World Finals.

  I posted in another thread today.

  Does the SCTA/BNI or Save The Salt know the salt percent in a gallon of brine and have they verified the amount pumped.

   Thrust but Verify.


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Re: SPEED WEEK 2015 Canceled - Hotel Reservations?
« Reply #445 on: July 20, 2015, 03:47:05 PM »
I just saw this posted on the SCTA-BNI Facebook page - "Peppermill directors are meeting today and will have a decision on refunds tomorrow (Tue.)".

Fingers crossed.

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Re: Did everyone get the BNI update?
« Reply #446 on: July 20, 2015, 03:47:59 PM »
according to scta fb page, speed week has been cancelled.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #447 on: July 20, 2015, 03:48:14 PM »
Our bikes are already in the USA and we all fly out on Aug 3rd.  Is it possible that the conditions will dry enough for short course only.  Or test and tune only.  We have nowhere else to run these bikes, so at present we shipped them out only to ship them back.

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SPEED WEEK 2015 CANCELLED
« Reply #448 on: July 20, 2015, 03:57:28 PM »
From SCTA/BNI web site: SPEED WEEK 2015 CANCELLED
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #449 on: July 20, 2015, 03:59:39 PM »
Feal sorry for you mate.

Feal sad and sorry for everyone who is involved,

Bloody hard job for the organisers to say no,

Hope you all get to do some racing this year,
all the best, david