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Offline Sporty Dan

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #165 on: July 14, 2015, 09:12:25 AM »
I voted yes. With my bike I wouldn't be on the long course anyway. With the possibility of 2 courses, the wait times shouldn't be too bad. I hope.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #166 on: July 14, 2015, 09:52:00 AM »
Well I think anyone can put anything in Wikipedia... just hit the edit link

Just because you see it on the internet or read it in the paper does not make it true  :cheers:

Stainless, so you believe the BLM is telling the truth when they say the salt is as thick today as in 1988?
As anybody knows that has been racing for that long, the salt is not the same. In 88 you had to drill a hole to drive a tent peg into the salt it was that thick. At the end of the week it took two men & a boy to get the muther back out again.
It boggles my mind how the BLM can believe there is no change.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #167 on: July 14, 2015, 10:19:23 AM »
The BLM and Forest Service functions have been to manage resources and that doesn't necessarily mean protect them unfortunately,

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #168 on: July 14, 2015, 11:24:23 AM »
The article in the Salt Lake Tribune has really gotten some traction.  As a follow-up to the article, the Tribune has decided to have a
round table discussion live on the internet today.  There will be a scientist from the University of Utah, someone from the BLM and a member of the Save the Salt board. It will start at 12:15 pm MST today. Here is the link for those of you that can listen in.

http://www.sltrib.com/blogs/tribtalk/2727276-155/trib-talk-bonneville-salt-flats-minus

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #169 on: July 14, 2015, 12:34:57 PM »
I would think that before the United States Army Air Corp decided to build a base for the most important military program ever in Wendover, and started flying irreplaceable B-29 bombers over the Bonneville Salt Flats training for the mission to end World War II, they made sure that those salt flats were thick enough to land those airplanes on them! It's been seventy years, where are the surveys that I'm they sure did? It's not Top Secret any more. There has to be a feasibility report on using the Bonneville Salt Flats as an emergency landing zone! And that report would list the thickness of the salt, and the date that was measured.

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #170 on: July 14, 2015, 01:55:48 PM »
One of the newly issued BLM rules is no fixed wing aircraft on the salt.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #171 on: July 14, 2015, 02:11:59 PM »
  If you go to the Link, you can text the program with questions.
  I don't have the capability but would appreciate if someone could ask if anyone asked the BLM to be part of the Forum.
  I don't think they have the Ball's to show up and lie to the Public.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #172 on: July 14, 2015, 02:48:13 PM »
That was a waste of time, signal and audio kept dropping out.The conversation was very one sided.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #173 on: July 14, 2015, 02:49:04 PM »
You're right Bob, the BLM was absent from this show. Just finished a few minutes ago.

To say I was Frustrated would be an understatement.......  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
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« Reply #174 on: July 14, 2015, 03:02:06 PM »
I just looked over the BLM's salt thickness study that is on their web site. Many people that look at this salt thickness "issue" are going to look at their published data and believe the BLM. I believe there is something to the problem of salt thickness because I believe many of the commentors on this web sight when they say the salt is thinner or softer. Therefor this is what I suggest:

Salt users could do some salt thickness measuring of their own. This could be done at areas that are known to be thin. Then the data is compared to the BLM data. I realize permission may be needed for any testing. Actual data that is counter to the BLM data might get someones attention and get the BLM to update their test. Otherwise they may just see talk about the salt being thinner as anecdotal.

If save the salt has the money they may hire an independent engineering firm to do testing. Obviously not as many test holes as the BLM has done, but enough to get some data that could not be ignored. Independent data is hard for even bureaucrats to ignore.
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #175 on: July 14, 2015, 03:02:56 PM »
I agree Mike my FRUSTRATION would end in BEEP BEEP BEEP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #176 on: July 14, 2015, 03:05:32 PM »
DaveB,

Your suggestion has been done many times already. Save the Salt and an independent study by Ron Main to name a couple.

Data is ignored by the BLM and legislators follow the BLM info vrs. the studies.  :dhorse:

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Did everyone get the BNI update?
« Reply #177 on: July 14, 2015, 03:06:03 PM »
See attached.  BNI email message came through as a png.   :roll:
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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #178 on: July 14, 2015, 03:08:50 PM »
Here is my study 40 years ago I use to try to dig to see what was under the salt and all I found was more salt. Now I know what is under there we race on it in spots :-(

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Re: Poor Salt Conditions - all topics merged into one
« Reply #179 on: July 14, 2015, 03:11:10 PM »
Did the BLM commit to join the show? If so what excuse do they have for not joining? Bull $hit LM :dhorse:
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