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Offline yarp

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LSX / Supra classification
« on: March 30, 2014, 03:07:54 PM »
I can't decide if it should be gas coupe and sedan or modified sports.
The car is completely original externally other than being lowered.
Seems like the engine swap forces me into modified sports???
appreciate any help.

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 03:53:21 PM »
If it had a back seat it is not a GT car. Only GT cars can move into modified sports.
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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 04:45:36 PM »
so the engine swap would make it gas coupe.

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 08:44:27 PM »
My understanding is that all supras came with rear seats, but i'm not an expert.

So it looks like gas coupe

Post some pictures! please
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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2014, 08:28:08 PM »
Except, its currently setup on E85.
I just found out that I have to bring my own E85 to Wilmington, and I was planning on driving the car there.

so gas coupe with a re-tune.
or
FGC on E85...though I don't see a fuel gas coupe class.

No pics yet. Ninja stealth mode and all. I don't even have a license yet and if I don't get the car sorted I might have to rookie up in a hyundai.  *shudders*

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2014, 09:47:01 PM »
There will not be a fuel "GAS" coupe class. The name of the class is GAS coupe, use the provided gas or be subjected to a gas check if you are using pump gas. E85 puts you into a "FUEL" class be it Fuel Altered(check other requirements) or Fuel Modified Sports if the body is deemed to be a sports car vrs. a sedan.

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Offline Peter Jack

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2014, 09:50:19 PM »
Get clarification from ECTA.

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2014, 09:53:59 PM »
Who at the ECTA should I ask for clarification?

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2014, 12:33:04 AM »
Go into "Welcome" in the ECTA website and pick "contacts". There's an e-mail address there for rules questions.

Where are you really located? If you go into your profile and change your location to what it really is then it's quite likely that there's someone close that may be able to help you.

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2014, 06:35:18 AM »
Yarp,
To run in the ‘Gas Class’, you are allowed to run unlead, leaded or oxygenated gas. Nitro and alcohol require you to run in the ‘Fuel Class’.

Do you have a current rule book?
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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 07:18:19 AM »
Yarp, you just got your answer from THE MAN at ECTA.

Joe, thanks for posting. It's really appreciated when someone with authority monitors this site and can give definitive answers.

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2014, 11:02:57 AM »
Yarp,
To run in the ‘Gas Class’, you are allowed to run unlead, leaded or oxygenated gas. Nitro and alcohol require you to run in the ‘Fuel Class’.

Do you have a current rule book?
Joe

yes sir, 2014 rule book has no mention of E85 (perhaps because of the alcohol content?) , but talk around these forums says that puts me in the fuel class. I'm just trying to figure out which fuel class.
unblown fuel altered maybe?

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 12:09:15 PM »

yes sir, 2014 rule book has no mention of E85 (perhaps because of the alcohol content?) , but talk around these forums says that puts me in the fuel class. I'm just trying to figure out which fuel class.
unblown fuel altered maybe?
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I could be wrong, but depending on the displacement of the LSX engine, you would probably run in one of the following Fuel Coupe classes: AA/FC, A/FC, B/FC, or C/FC. The engine swap knocks you out of Production and puts you into the Coupe class (which is a level within the Modified category), but you need more modifications (e.g., a step pan, a large engine setback, or covered headlights and grille) to move into Altered. The use of E85 knocks you out of gas and into fuel. So you're basically a Gas Coupe that's not using gasoline, which makes you a Fuel Coupe...

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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2014, 12:35:50 PM »
I could be wrong, but depending on the displacement of the LSX engine, you would probably run in one of the following Fuel Coupe classes: AA/FC, A/FC, B/FC, or C/FC. The engine swap knocks you out of Production and puts you into the Coupe class (which is a level within the Modified category), but you need more modifications (e.g., a step pan, a large engine setback, or covered headlights and grille) to move into Altered. The use of E85 knocks you out of gas and into fuel. So you're basically a Gas Coupe that's not using gasoline, which makes you a Fuel Coupe...

Gary

There isn't a /FC class, only /FCC (comp. coupe) which requires one of several major modifications to run.
/FALT or /FMS, depending on how the Supra is defined, would be the right classes for this car. For ECTA it
could also run /FRS if running a carb or /FSS if running EFI.
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Re: LSX / Supra classification
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2014, 12:53:03 PM »
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There isn't a /FC class, only /FCC (comp. coupe) which requires one of several major modifications to run.
/FALT or /FMS, depending on how the Supra is defined, would be the right classes for this car. For ECTA it
could also run /FRS if running a carb or /FSS if running EFI.

Sounds like if I just bring a roll of duct tape I can run /FALT
Cant do /FMS cause of the backseat is what I'm being told.
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