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Offline Malcolm UK

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« on: July 08, 2006, 04:56:04 PM »
The outright UK record was raised yesterday a small amount and a new record speed of 301.67 mph is being put forward for final MSA ratification.

Tyre problems on the faster car prevented back up to a 329 mph run. :cry:

Thanks from the PrimeTime LSR team to USAF personnel at their Fairford air base - great people and great venue.
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Re: New British LSR (to be ratified)
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2006, 05:23:14 PM »
Quote from: Malcolm UK
The outright UK record was raised yesterday a small amount and a new record speed of 301.67 mph is being put forward for final MSA ratification.

Tyre problems on the faster car prevented back up to a 329 mph run. :cry:

Thanks from the PrimeTime LSR team to USAF personnel at their Fairford air base - great people and great venue.


Hey Malcolm are there any pictures are more info on the runs (conditions, track length, etc.) and the cars (it sounded from your post that maybe more than one car ran over 300).

Thanks,

Sum

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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2006, 06:13:11 PM »
This is, what Malcolm wrote us on a other LSR list. Hope this gives some answer......

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Fortunately I was not at Goodwood this year gathering any autographs - (you want to see the copious amounts of money within motor sport then you have to go), as I have had to organise a land speed record attempt for PrimeTime with their three LSR cars.  The main attraction of the record attempt is the jet car 'shoot out' between the current record holder 'Vampire (300.3 mph average speed in 2000)  and the new lighter weight car - 'split second'.  The electric car e=motion geared for the shorter course is entered as well.

The link to the USA is that the runway used is at RAF Fiarford
Gloucestershire, which is a base of the USAF here in the British Isles.  It
was thanks to a General somewhere within the Pentagon that we got access to
the finest runway in the UK.  Two and a quarter miles or so of pristine
asphalt that is self draining.  Timed distances of 1/4 mile, 500 metres and
1 kilometre are being set up.

The reason for it being this weekend is that one of the jets will open the
display at RIAT 2006 - the World's largest air tattoo - next weekend, on
each of its two public show days (15th & 16th July if you are here).


see ya
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2006, 09:21:05 AM »
Thanks Thomas (aka Pork Pie) for posting the landspeed data.

After posting the adrenaline rush of the culmination of nearly a years work stopped, to be replaced with 12 hours sleep!

After rain hit the airfield there was a five hour delay in starting the attempt on Friday 7th.  Runs got underway after the two minutes silence held for those whose lives were taken in the UK 7/7 terrorist bombings in London.

The airfield is 3.45 kilometres of usable length and the 1/4 mile (0.402 m)long timing trap was set in the very middle of this space.  Two runs are made one from each direction.  We had a 500 metre speed trap too and an 'offset' kilometre.

The teams older car suffered body damage on the first run after speeds of 310 mph (1/4) and 308 mph (1/2 kilo) were achieved.  The only British record we can claim after the (slower) return run is the 500 metre at an avergae 301.67 mph.  Nevertheless when ratified this will be a new outright speed for the UK.  

The newer car 'Split Second' went at 329.91 mph thorugh the 1/4 mile on its one and only run which caused the front tyres to fail.  Through the last 100 meteres it picked up speed to achieve over 331 mph through the 500m.  Safety considerations meant that there was no back up run.

The third car - the electric streamliner e=motion - performd only marginally better than in Nevada in 2005 and went 1 kilometre from a standing start before the power safety devices shut down the drive system.  Some of the smoke that powers these things was let out!

The teams website should be up dated soon.

The team's drivers have told the media that they will now retire from land speed record breaking.
Malcolm UK, Derby, England.

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2006, 11:45:04 AM »
The Panasonic effort was safer because it only went a few feet slowly.
I guess the only thing safer might be the electric vibrating arm chair.
Sometimes the view from the armchair is better also, but until you have done it can you really be sure ?
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2006, 03:47:10 PM »
The Panasonic effort was safer because it only went a few feet slowly.

But the Panasonic attempt got much more  :wink:  publicity, especially from this big crowd of reporter they brought over........ :? and the sponsors  :shock:
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2006, 11:37:57 AM »
When they drive them thru the wheels to achive the record I will be more impressed
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2006, 02:41:13 PM »
Not a record, but might be of interest:

Frank "the flying dutchman", a regular at UK website www.200mph.org.uk went 254.9mph yesterday at RAF Elvington, one way, on his turbo Hayabusa. Conditions were too poor for two way runs today, but the meeting continues tomorrow (Tuesday).

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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2006, 02:48:26 PM »
congrats to the 250+.
its early in the year. hoping you guys find the gremlins.
and here's to better conditions. :D

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2006, 06:52:51 PM »
That distance and surface is available all over the World.
Standardization of methods and classes could breed, more events, fair competition,
 and allow one to really make direct comparisons.
More and better events would be the result.
I want an entrant from OZ to beat an Englishmen and then I want to beat them both.

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Standardisation.
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2006, 08:15:00 PM »
I agree Jack, as soon as the U.S. updates to metric the happier we'll all be.

I know it's only been in use for 200 years but don't  you think it's time to catch up?
Then we can all race on the same playing field.

The world is waiting.

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Who told you ?
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2006, 08:41:53 PM »
That was supposed to be our little secret.
Is nothing is sacred ?
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sacred or scared?
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2006, 09:18:51 PM »
I think the Mars Climate Orbiter fiasco blew your cover a few years back...

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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2006, 10:00:18 PM »
I can see it now, Dan & J.D. converting all our records from mph to kph! Might not be so bad...we'd sound a bit faster @ 484.0565 kph! Has a nice ring to it...
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Re: sacred or scared?
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2006, 10:38:44 PM »
Quote from: Reverend Hedgash
I think the Mars Climate Orbiter fiasco blew your cover a few years back...

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Who cares.
It was paid for with tax money and where else are those worthless people going to get paid that good ?
If Chris Craft stayed in the boat business we would all be better off.
The America's Cup is a better investment.
Are we still racing or trying to figure where to get the money ?
Stick with the important stuff like National Pride and I am sure something else will occur to me.
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