All Cow MC Leathers

[klr4ever]

Which off the shelf leathers meet the USFRA rules for "all leather"?

I realize that this subject has been brought up before, and I think I have read all the old posts about leathers.
I just never found an answer about a brand that was readily available that meets the rules.

Dan

[firemanjim]

Maybe a Vanson?I have gotten good deals off eBay for both my son and I. Just got a set of some low tech, not so high dollar ones for me and a really nice one piece Vanson for him.But he is about 120 lbs and I am 180 +/-.
Less than 125 for each set.

[dirtydave]

WTF man in Oz we pay from $1500 to $2500, and we grow our own cows?

[Nortonist 592]

Are the USFRA rules on leathers the same as SCTA?  The SCTA rules say you can't have cloth panels or non-leather panels and perforations are restricted to armpits and back of the knees.  So it would appear that most leathers would qualify.  So far they haven't specified whether the leather must come from a Jersey or Gurnsey.

[klr4ever]

I must be looking at the wrong type of leathers.  Everything I have looked at has had cloth panels, at the crotch and along the arms.

If anyone looking at this could tell me what brand and model they passed Tech with I would appreciate it.

Dan

[landracing]

I bought a set of leathers cheap, they had both perforations and cloth panels.. Then I took them to a tailor and they sewed in patches over these parts... about $100... Leather cost me about $125....

Jon

[Nortonist 592]

Mine are older but all [Lewis]leather.  New leathers seem to have cloth panels for comfort and fit.  I think the SCTA expects us, when we crash, to hit the ground with some strange parts of our bodies.

[k.h.]

In the fuel classes, alcohol fires being hard to see.  And fuels, burning or otherwise, or steaming liquids of all sorts soaking through the cloth panels, etc.  Less porous leather, less chance of burns or blisteing.

[firemanjim]

USFRA same rules as SCTA. Bubs is NOT the same.
Most newer leathers will have the inserts etc.Look for some a few years old or dirt track style ones as my sons's Vansons were. They tend towards the all leather stuff.
And this rule change argument was hashed out before in great detail. It was based on ONE person getting burned through his leathers. He even came on and gave us the real explanation for his burns---resulted from sweat turning to steam inside his leathers. Nothing to do with cloth or perforations,but again, the rules committee made a decision without input from anyone it affected or getting information from anyone with some knowlegde.
So I have 4 sets of leathers for 2 riders so we can run SCTA or Bubs.
These may do the trick  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AGV-Two-Piece-Leathers-Size-46_W0QQitemZ8077391641QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6750QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DAINESE-WHITE-RED-ONE-PIECE-LEATHERS-SUIT-SIZE-52_W0QQitemZ8077429002QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6750QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fieldsheer-2pc-suit-42-Motorcycle-leathers-sidi-joe_W0QQitemZ220001267562QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6750QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fieldsheer-2pc-suit-42-Motorcycle-leathers-sidi-joe_W0QQitemZ220001267562QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6750QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dainese-Motorcycle-Leathers-Size-50-One-piece-Suit_W0QQitemZ330000994625QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6750QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330001245948&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BATES-LEATHERS-ROADRACE-AHRMA-DIRTTRACK-VINTAGE_W0QQitemZ190000847199QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6750QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EUROPEAN-MOTORCYCLE-LEATHERS-2PC-MENS-RACE-SUIT-NR_W0QQitemZ120000632074QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6750QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
There were a bunch more but you would need to question seller more as the pics were not clear. A friend also did what Joe and Jon did,have leather sewn in. Not too costly.

[JackD]

Jim got it right. SCTA got it wrong.
Expert information is widely available and SCTA missed the mark.
Back protection deserves more attention and the Carbon-X underwear material is a good idea from an expert.
 That suggestion has fallen in deaf ears.

"I know SCTA has a communication problem but we are not going to discuss it with the membership."

[klr4ever]

Thanks for the tips on the leathers.  
I was hoping to buy something off the rack and just thought it was odd I couldn't find a set.
It seems like quite a few people have had leather sewn over the fabric.
Hopefully somebody 6'3" 300 lbs puts their leathers up on E-Bay.

Dan

[firemanjim]

Post what size you are looking for and we'll keep an eye out for you.