A class issues

[nrhs sales]

enclosed tails are not allowed at Bubs even in a class.

[bak189]

Hey, any and all orgs. get my call.......if they mess up I have called them on it....
Yes, SCTA/BNI got most of my "questions" for the past 30 plus years......mainly because when a new group of "officials" move in the rules change and classes are dropped and/or added..........My "questions" have always been limited to the M/C and mainly sidecar classes.......................................................

I have also had my problems with the BUB org. but they were ALWAYS willing to talk it over and get it resolved (unlike SCTA/BNI)..................................

When I was racing in Europe (in the last century) the FIM. got all my "questions"...And they handled it just like SCTA/BNI....No resolve............
but hey, I don't give up........We are now roadracing sidecars with ARHMA,
and I do have some "questions" for them also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember............ALWAYS Question Authority......................................

[wobblywalrus]

A person can buy a really fast bike like one of the new BMWs, race it in production class, do some small thing to disqualify it after setting a record, then run it in the modified class, set another record, then make streamlining from duck tape to qualify it for modified partial streamliner, set a record there, then do something to disqualify it from modified partial, like lengthen the tail an inch past the rear wheel with duck tape, then set a record in special construction partial streamliner.

I know this from experience.  A few of the records I lost were to folks hopping around in different classes with very nominal changes.  It is bad for the sport and it especially hurts the special construction builders.  It is very hard for them to home build bikes to beat the latest factory equipment.

The AMA might be doing the right thing for the long term health of LSR.  How they are doing it is questionable at best. 

[sabat]

It is very hard for them to home build bikes to beat the latest factory equipment.

And here's the crux of the issue - why require racers to replace a well-engineered chassis, if they can't make a faster version?

Will AMA Altered records be SLOWER than Modified? Is that a good thing?

[dw230]

Not saying it is complied with, but the SCTA has a rule which states in part - if a vehicle is not legal for a class that does not mean it is legal for another class.

DW

[sabat]

I emailed Matt Schuss yesterday, and there is no SCTA rule against OEM frames in Altered.

[nrhs sales]

Will AMA Altered records be SLOWER than Modified?

In many classes they already are.  Just like fuel and boosted classes are often times slower than just gas.

[dw230]

Dean,

I was referring to class changes done with duct tape.

DW

[sabat]

Don't take away my secret weapon! 

[Dean Los Angeles]

Will AMA Altered records be SLOWER than Modified?

Only as long as production bikes are run.

The lack of innovation in altered continues to amaze me. The aero on a conventional motorcycle is pretty terrible.

Why not take advantage of the rules and build a lay down design?

[joea]

excuse me...while I petition to run my...blown -fuel-altered-pushrod-partially streamlined- -trike....I really hope I don't have to compete with the local OEM factory commuter effort...cuz I really spent a lot of money..and sweated and bled a lot making this ....

edit: sidecar removed...there is already a record there..I need to run on an open record..I want to be a pioneer..

[sabat]

Will AMA Altered records be SLOWER than Modified?

Only as long as production bikes are run.

The lack of innovation in altered continues to amaze me. The aero on a conventional motorcycle is pretty terrible.

Why not take advantage of the rules and build a lay down design?

This is a great example of the difference between theory and practice. In theory, the single-purpose, laydown frame bike "should" be faster, right? But the fastest (sit-on) salt bikes over the last 10 years have been built solely with OEM frames.

Joe Amo
Al Lamb
Greg Watters
Richard Assen
Mark Deluca
John Noonan
Jason McVicar

And of course Bill Warner's extreme, spare-no-expense effort was built with an OEM frame.

So clearly, we should outlaw that!   

[4-barrel Mike]

badpuns.com is taken, but

stupidpuns.com is apparently available.   

Mike

[wobblywalrus]

Sometimes the production class bikes are fastest of all.  It makes a a fellow wonder...

[ol38y]

Sometimes the production class bikes are fastest of all.  It makes a a fellow wonder...

Maybe the frame has the least to do with the speed achieved. Hmmmmm