COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012

[gas pumper]

I just had to do this

[Seldom Seen Slim]

James Rice's timing slips for today, the 17rd of September at the Cook Top Speed Shootout.

[desotoman]

This came off of Cook's site and was the only thing I could find on the one percent.

"In 2001 Don Vesco’s turbine powered Turbinator raised the official wheel-driven land speed record to 458 MPH and that’s the benchmark top Bonneville Shootout competitors are gunning for. To be sure it is possible to set FIA records in lesser categories, but the current Holy Grail is the Turbinator’s unlimited wheel-driven record. The legitimacy of Campbell’s 1964 turbine powered record officially reinforces Turbinator’s claim to the wheel-driven land speed record and contenders will have to exceed it by one percent to claim the title. Moreover, Vesco can still claim the fastest exit speed with a stunning 470 mph blast on the books."

Tom G.

[Dean Los Angeles]

Corrected the engines on Speed Demon. Pending records noted for cars, nothing mentioned for bikes.
Extraneous numbers at the end are the page numbers so I can . . . somewhat keep track.

Shootout 2012

Current records
Supercharged
Class A-1-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	345.522
Speed Demon	Kilo	326.227
Class A-1-9	3-5 liter / 183.071-305.119 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	363.673
Speed Demon	Kilo	363.847
Class A-1-10	5-8 liter / 305.119-488.190 ci
Al Teague	Mile	405.862
Al Teague	Kilo	406.321
Non-Supercharged
Class A-11-6	1.1-1.5 liter / 67.126-91.536 ci
Larry Wilcox	Mile	138.728
Larry Wilcox	Kilo	137.041
Class A-11-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	250.853
Speed Demon	Kilo	250.917
Sept 15 8:21	Speed Demon	Entry	432.99	Kilo	436.35	Mile	436.17	Exit	438.83	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “D” Record 363 No return run. Hole in head. 7
Sept 15 8:49	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	180.7	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.6	Exit	182.3	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run 8
Sept 15 9:21	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	178.45	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.4	Exit	183.9	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run 8
New Record	Kilo	181.687	Mile	181.543
Sept 15 10:38	Jamie Williams	Entry	212.22	Kilo	211.46	Mile	211.525	Exit	211.43	Record 201 9
Sept 15 11:33	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	182	Kilo	183	Mile	183	Exit	183.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run  9
Sept 15 11:56	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	181	Kilo	182.426	Mile	182.379	Exit	xxx	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run  10
New Record	Kilo	182.875	Mile	182.796
Sept 15 12:10	Al Lamb	Entry	206.8	Kilo	206.6	Mile	206.5	Exit	xxx	10
Sept 15 12:44	Greg Watters	Entry	256	Kilo	257.5	Mile	257.2	Exit	xxx	Record 232 10
Sept 15 12:50	Al Lamb	Entry	236.5	Kilo	241.500	Mile	241.734	Exit	xxx	10
Sept 15 1:20	Jim Knapp	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		Chute self deployed, twisted jack shaft 11
Sept 15 1:53	Greg Watters	Entry	205.485	Kilo	203.374	Mile	203.400	Exit	xxx	Record 232 11
Sept 15 3:55	Al Lamb	Entry	238.09	Kilo	249.28	Mile	246.65	Exit	xxx	11 No return
Sept 16 7:54	Speed Demon	Entry	425	Kilo	428.8	Mile	428.7	Exit	432.3	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Down run  13
Sept 16 8:34	Speed Demon	Entry	404.9	Kilo	411	Mile	411	Exit	xxx	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Return run  Bearing problem in front wheel 14
New Record	Kilo	419.923	Mile	419.776
Sept 16 8:56	Jamie Williams	Entry	211.5	Kilo	212.0	Mile	211.99	Exit	212.1	Down run 14
Sept 16 8:56	Al Lamb	Entry	245.5	Kilo	252.3	Mile	251.8	Exit	256.9	Down run 14
Sept 16 10:34	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	207	Mile	207	Exit	206.8	Return run 16
Sept 16 10:39	Al Lamb	Entry	252.2	Kilo	256.3	Mile	255.3	Exit	255.1	Return run 16
Sept 16 12:40	Jim Knapp	Entry	270.0	Kilo	269.4	Mile	269.3	Exit		2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run 17
Sept 16 1:12	Jim Knapp	Entry	262.8	Kilo	268.3	Mile	268.2	Exit	273.2	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Return run 18
New Record	Kilo	268.894	Mile	268.837
Sept 16 1:31	Kim Krebs	Entry	238.12	Kilo	238.7	Mile	238.75	Exit	239.2	Record 204 Down run 18
Sept 16 1:37	Al Lamb	Entry	230.217	Kilo	228.5	Mile	228.29	Exit		Down run 18
Sept 16 1:47	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.9	Kilo	98.87	Mile	97.4	Exit	98.45	18
Sept 16 1:47	Speed Demon	Entry	419.1	Kilo	425.3	Mile	425.1	Exit	430.6	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Down run  Aux fuel circuit kicked in 18
Sept 16 2:08	Brandon Miller	Entry	87.9	Kilo	93.575	Mile	91.93	Exit		19
Sept 16 2:39	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Return run  Shut off. Oil dripping. Transmission gone. 19
Sept 16 3:05	Al Lamb	Entry	257.3	Kilo	240.5	Mile	235	Exit	203	Return run 18
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	84.75	Kilo	91.56	Mile	90.54	Exit	93.54	21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.87	Kilo	94.77	Mile	94.12	Exit		21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	85	Kilo	91.3	Mile	89.8	Exit		21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	89.9	Kilo	90.0	Mile	89.3	Exit		21
Sept 17 7:17	Jamie Williams	Entry	210.4	Kilo	210.0	Mile	210.0	Exit	209	Down run 21
Sept 17 7:32	Al Lamb	Entry	257.4	Kilo	259.3	Mile	258.4	Exit	256.8	Down run 22
Sept 17 7:54	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	209.3	Mile	208.7	Exit		Return run 22
Sept 17 7:06	Al Lamb	Entry	252.7	Kilo	254.4	Mile	254.3	Exit		Return run 22
Sept 17 8:58	Speed Demon	Entry	444.0	Kilo	449.32	Mile	449.16	Exit	453.8	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Down run. 23
Sept 17 9:57	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo	430.035	Mile	429.200	Exit		3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Return run. With a shredded tire. 26th run over 400mph  23
New Record	Kilo	439.562	Mile	439.024
Sept 17 10:14	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.333	Kilo	205.4	Mile	205.09	Exit	208.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run  25
Sept 17 10:51	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197	Kilo	203.9	Mile	203.1	Exit		1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run  25
New Record	Kilo	204.69		Mile	204.13
Sept 17 1:02	Jim Knapp	Entry	288.87	Kilo	293.68	Mile	293.52	Exit	297.81	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run. Fuel pump problem no return. 26
Sept 17 2:38	Brandon Miller	Entry	93	Kilo	101.89	Mile	100.220	Exit	102.615	26
Sept 17 2:51	Brandon Miller	Entry		Kilo	98.443	Mile	97.114	Exit	98.691	26
Sept 17 3:11	Kim Krebs	Entry	161	Kilo	102	Mile		Exit		Record 204 Down run. Turned out 28
Sept 17 3:11	Jamie Williams	Entry	228	Kilo	228.9	Mile	228.946	Exit	229.408	Down run 28
Sept 17 3:16	Greg Watters	Entry	257.5	Kilo	258.1	Mile	257.4	Exit	255.1	Down run 28
Sept 17 3:21	Al Lamb	Entry	155.8	Kilo		Mile		Exit		Turned out 28
Sept 17 3:34	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197.813	Kilo	201.991	Mile	202.079	Exit	206.837	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run  28
Sept 17 4:02	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.410	Kilo	207.2	Mile	206.7	Exit	211.585	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run  29
Sept 17 4:10	Jamie Williams	Entry	223.3	Kilo	223.5	Mile	222.49	Exit	222.4	Return run 29
Sept 17 4:16	Kim Krebs	Entry	222.5	Kilo	224.4	Mile	224.0	Exit	224.205	Down run. 29
Sept 17 4:16	Greg Watters	Entry	246.3	Kilo	246.9	Mile	246.7	Exit	246.5	Return run 29
Sept 17 5:04	Kim Krebs	Entry	235.128	Kilo	235.575	Mile	235.521	Exit	235.735	Return run. 29
Sept 17 2:38	Brandon Miller	Entry	92.6	Kilo	101.6	Mile	99.88	Exit	102.203	31
Sept 17 6:05	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.664	Kilo	100.751	Mile	98.94	Exit	101.0	31
Sept 17 6:05	Brandon Miller	Entry	94.166	Kilo	100.082	Mile	98.178	Exit	99.073	31

[NathanStewart]

Dean, aren't P&M SD running big inch motor right now (well maybe not right right now but today and yesterday)?  Thought it was a 368 or something... just clarifying.

[Dean Los Angeles]

Sigh, will make the change on the motors in the NEXT one. Yes, the 362 motor in all but the first run.

FIA
Appendix D - Regulations For Record Attempts
CHAPTER 3 - RECOGNITION, RECORDING AND PUBLICATION
Art. 229 Jurisdiction and conditions of recognition
2) The performance must represent an increase of at least 1 % of the average speed of the previous record, if there is one.

[trimmers]

Dean: You're correct - it's on the FIA website just as you quoted.  I'll check again with James and Dave today to see if there's something else on this, or if I misunderstood what was said.   The good news is that the records from this week exceeded the previous ones by more than 1%.

[Malcolm UK]

I feel sure that Dave Petrali will confirm that the 2012 version of FIA Appendix D has removed all mention of 1 % improvement, except in the drag racing category when an ET record has to be 'backed up'.

This rule change had been published after the Records Commission meeting in Wendover in 2011 as the intention. This brings the car and bike World's into agreement.

I understand that there were no plans to extend the period for a record attempt on the mile and kilo from the current 60 minutes.

Thanks to Slim, Nancy and Ray for the information flow and to contributors who have added 'colour' to the happenings at the Cook Shootout. If there are seven bike streamliners at the 2013 event I shall be planning on a late holiday in the USA next year.

[TrickyDicky]

New user here - but a long-time lurker in the UK.

Malcolm is correct.  I have just checked the pdf available for download from the FIA web site (http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/records/appendixd/Pages/Contents.aspx), and the 1 % requirement has been deleted.  It’s just difficult to see the missing text ... because it’s no longer there.

The Al Teague record beaten by SD over the last two days was also beaten by Amir Rosenbaum in 2010.  Just not by the then-required 1% (comparing mile speeds of 407.516 mph and 405.862 mph).  So if SD had (hypothetically) run a mile average of 406.xxx mph (to set a new record under 2012 rules) we could have had the oddity of a new official record being slower than a speed set under almost identical conditions 2 years earlier.

[RayTheRat]

Thanks for the run data compilation, Dean.  It really helps me see the forest, so too speak.  I'm so close all I can see is trees.

I think bike records were set by Al Lamb, Jamie Williams, Greg Watters and Kim Krebs.  I dunno about Brandon Miller and his electric whizzmobile.  Sorry...it's just so quiet that we can't hear it coming and it's a b*tch to get a photo of it at speed.  But here's one, anyway.    The early morning sunlight added some nice warm coloration to the shot.  

For anyone who cares, here's the photo data:  1/160th, f14, ISO 200 hand-held with a Canon 7D, 100-400mm L lens at 400mm.  I've been using the 7D and a Canon 5D Mk I exclusively at this meet, since my 40D died at WoS.  Camera mortality is becoming a bit of a problem.  I just had the shutter replaced in the 7D and the 40D (which was my backup camera) was rebuilt last year.  Pork Pie has been kind enough to let me use his old 5D...and I'm really getting attached to it, particularly with a 28-135 mm lens that wasn't really suited to any of the crop sensor cameras...but with the full frame 5D, it's perfect.  Just like what I originally got used to using on a Pentax Spotmatic WAY back in the late 60s.

Here's one more shot from the other direction.  Same camera settings.

[CGoodson]

Good morning all you wild and crazy land speed racers! Looking forward to another great day of racing! Go fast!

[Avanti Kid]

Question, how fast has the Camero gone so far and what class will he be running in at WFs?

[RayTheRat]

Good morning from the salt.  Things are just beginning to happen.  Al Lamb, Jamie Williams and "Sparky" (Brandon Miller - electric bike) are heading to their staging area at about the 2.5.  I believe that's the order and direction in which they'll run: from Floating Mountain.  (I guess it's not Floating Island this week.)

Speed Demon made the engine swap from the 368" to the 4-banger and are preparing to run asap...after the bikes.

re: Camaro:  They haven't made a full run yet and I'm guessing that they'll run AA/FALT or AA/BFALT.  I'll ask Steve when I get a chance.

[CGoodson]

I think I read a few posts back that P/M got the head welded up for the 299ci motor. Are they gonna run the 299ci motor again?

[Dean Los Angeles]

Thanks for the update on the 1% rule. I picked that off of the FIA HTML page. Heaven forbid you should have the current rules online match the pdf version and the real world.