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Title: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on December 23, 2010, 09:29:49 PM
I am building a MG for modified sport. This project started a few years back when I purchased a project MG at a swap meet the car was rough and had a 3.4 Chevy v-6 installed but not running, the plan at this time was for a fun street car. After a weekend at the Texas Mile as a spectator I started to research using the car for both street and trips to Goliad. Meanwhile hurricane Ike hit the island(I live in Galveston) and the car was under 4 ft of water for a couple of hours just enough to ruin the majority of the running gear, so the decision was made to skip the street part and use the car for racing. After towing to a friends shop nearby the car was stripped to the tub sandblasted and the rust cut out(not much left at this point). A new base was made of 2x2x.188 square tubing stretching the frame to accommodate a 3 liter Nissan twin turbo v-6 and 5 speed. bracing and roll cage were made of 1 5/8 .120 tubing. The suspension is basically stock MG with road racing springs shock valving in front and leaf springs with tube shocks in back. Rear axle is a narrowed 10 bolt Chevy. Hopefully the car will be ready for Maxton this spring, plans are to run the car first with the motor stock and sort the chassis then go through the motor. Tried attaching pictures but received error message (not a computer genius).
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: debgeo on December 23, 2010, 11:38:36 PM
Welcome aboard. Work on getting picures. We love seeing and following progress. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on December 24, 2010, 01:07:23 AM
MG, eh?  That marque has a grand history at Bonneville going back to the late 1930's. 

B? Midget? BGT? A?  Which one you starting with?

Sounds like you're heading into Modified Sport territory, although the MGB-GT might fall into a coupe class these days - 1 5/8 cage would keep you legal at those kind of speeds -  and the Nissan is a killer motor.

Texas would be a fun event for such a car.  If you're thinking Bonneville or Maxton, get a rule book ASAP, and I'm really not kidding.  You can wind up a long way down the wrong road before you realize you need a map.

I encourage you to check out Hotshue's build diary (Bonneville Bugeye), and if you'd like to know how NOT to do it, you can check out mine (Milwaukee Midget).

Boy Howdy - welcome aboard, mate!  :cheers:

PS - Need some parts? :-D



 
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on December 24, 2010, 01:34:11 AM
car is a 1966 mk2 midget have rule books for both scta and ecta memorized both before serious work started, also have run once at Maxton with a stock Supra. Not my first brit car did scca in the early 70's with a bugeye.  BTW took all lucas parts out of car.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on December 24, 2010, 11:35:42 AM
BTW took all lucas parts out of car.

And Lo, the Prince of Darkness was banished from the Garages of Morris, and there was much rejoicing in the land.

 :cheers:


Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on December 24, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
The 2011 rulebooks will be printed and released to the purchasing public soon after the beginning of the new year.  Make sure you're using that newest one as you build.

Best wishes, and Welcome!
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on December 24, 2010, 01:52:55 PM
here is a try at my pile of parts
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: 38flattie on December 24, 2010, 01:56:41 PM
Well, with all those parts, you should be busy for a while!

Cool build, keep us posted!
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on December 29, 2010, 07:07:12 PM
I recognise those wheel arches!

Slick adaptation of the front stub.  Be cautious of your stops on the swivel axles - depending on your wheel offset, 15" tires will rub just a tad north of the triangulation at full lock.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on January 21, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Work has been slow on the car however we did get the body mounted. Most of the sub assemblies have been mocked up in the past. Next is to paint and reassemble the rear suspension and axle. The front has been painted and is ready to be put  back together. hope to have it rolling soon. didget some new pictures.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on January 21, 2011, 12:58:08 PM
Missed getting other pictures.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on January 21, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
Don't want to be a pest, but if you've got some shots of how the body is mounted, I'd love to see them.

Any drawings or plans for the front end?

Go get 'em, Tex.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on May 06, 2011, 11:12:56 AM
Well it has been a while since I have updated the progress on the Midget. Life got in the way and not much work was done for quite a few weeks. Got back to work and this what was accomplished first the motor is a JDM piece and had arrived with a cracked and dented oil pan, most likely from shipping. this was removed and repaired. These engines are supposed to only have 30-40k on them and I believe it, the inside of the motor looked new. The motor and transmission were put in place the mounts and brackets had been made earlier. This week I was off of work (vacation)  and the rear end was assembled and the suspension was painted and put place. Being curios, and a little anxious the tires were put on and the car lowered to the ground. Well we must have done something right it sets level. Iam a little concerned as there is only 2.5 inches groun clearance at the oil pan. The front sheet metal was set on. And it is starting to look like a race car.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 06, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
Good to see this one back on track.  Pics when you can - still wondering what the front tin is going to look like.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on May 06, 2011, 07:33:10 PM
OOps forgot pcture. It looks like an MG
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Stan Back on May 06, 2011, 09:32:02 PM
That's the first Touring Car Midget I've ever seen!  They musta not imported them.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 06, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
. . . It looks like an MG

I guess I'm surprised, because modified let's you go nuts with the front end.  On the other hand, it's good to see the familiar face.

Just a thought - It would be a simple matter to acquire a replica Sebring Sprite front end and extend it in the same manner as you are doing with the stock front end.  The aero advantage of the Sebring would be considerable, and it would bolt right into place.  I would do it myself, if not for the fact that I'm running production, and insufficient numbers of the original Sebring Sprites were made to qualify it as a production car.

I'm diggin' this one.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on May 06, 2011, 11:56:59 PM
Funding has a lot to do with using the stock parts as well as I just want it to look like a Midget. Spent today taking my wife to the mall in Houston and stopped and picked up u-joints to finish making the steering shaft. Next week the radiator goes in the shop for new inlet and outlets and recore with an extra core.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 08, 2011, 02:23:04 PM
That's the first Touring Car Midget I've ever seen!  They musta not imported them.

And being 5'17" myself, I'd be really tempted to extend the footwell on the driver side.  Prevents the need to develop human origami techniques.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on May 08, 2011, 05:07:40 PM
Well, what a difference an inch makes, actually 13 inches, the footwelss could have come back a couple of inches. As it is the turbos are about 2 inches from the footwells. The seat is almost all the way to rise at the back of the floor pan. Just thinking if we call it a touring car do I have to run with the roadsters.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Stan Back on May 08, 2011, 08:14:17 PM
Naa -- but a 31 Model A 2-door touring with a solid tonneau (spoiler) and the driver set well back would make a hell of a Street Roadster.  Too bad it would be illegal.

Stan
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on May 13, 2011, 12:16:43 PM
My original plan was to use a blanket for a scattershield. However after researching the forum I came across a picture of Googles scattershield posted last year, and I believe there is room to make something similar to this. I am going over to the shop today and will measure and possibly make patterns.  I am considering a two piece design (top and bottom) bolted to a tab welded to the frame. Would welcome any thoughts or recommendations .

Possum
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 13, 2011, 04:19:59 PM
Having just gone through it myself, I will say that there is a reluctance to authorize a blanket over the clutch housing on the part of the officials.  The only reason my drive got the thumbs up - and it took a long time for the decision to be made - is because of the small clutch size and the forged flywheel.

Given that you've stretched your chassis, the Aussie's idea will probably work well for you, AND put some additional weight right about where you'll want it.  Just make sure you allow plenty of time for approval - the tech guys do get swamped with requests, they're volunteers with lives outside of LSR, and patient, friendly persistence will tend to pay off.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 13, 2011, 04:21:51 PM
"...they're volunteers with lives outside of LSR..."

There's life outside LSR?  Since when?
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 13, 2011, 04:24:42 PM
"...they're volunteers with lives outside of LSR..."

There's life outside LSR?  Since when?

Since some of us have to W O R K! :-D

Ahhh - to be semi-retired and disenfranchised . . .
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Peter Jack on May 13, 2011, 04:36:58 PM
MM, did you ever manage to get your scattershield back?

Pete
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 13, 2011, 04:44:34 PM
MM, did you ever manage to get your scattershield back?

Pete

No, but I was wondering if Tok would be willing to help me hunt down that dirtbag.  :-D

Sorry, Possum - returning your thread.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on May 13, 2011, 06:43:58 PM
Kinda wondered the same thing myself . BTW who do I request approval from, and what do I need to send them.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 13, 2011, 08:17:52 PM
PM Sent.  I'd start with drawings, but I understand they would like to see pictures of the completed item before they'll sign off on it.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: possum on July 06, 2011, 11:59:01 PM
I started making a pattern for the scattershield.   However, two weeks ago at work I started feeling real puny went to the E.R.  Long story short they let me out of the hospital a couple of hours ago. Seems my feeling puny was a heart attack any way the doc says I cant go back to work for at least three more weeks.  Will keep ya'll posted when I can get back to work on the midget.
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on July 07, 2011, 01:53:45 AM

The car can wait - take care of yourself.  Wishing you a quick and complete recovery.

Chris
Title: Re: Texas MG Build
Post by: Stan Back on July 07, 2011, 10:43:28 PM
Never could understand those vintage classes.