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East Coast Timing Association => ECTA General Chat => Topic started by: bharmon77 on December 21, 2010, 01:34:45 PM
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I live in Wilmington, Ohio and I was curious to know if Wilmington Airpark has ever been considered for an ECTA tarck? This airport is an old B-52 field with the longest ruway at 10,700 feet. The airport has not been active since Airborne/DHL moved out 2 years ago. I would be willing to do local research if anyone was serious about proposing this idea to the city who now owns the field.
bharmon7077@yahoo.com
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That would save me 5 hours each way.
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Here's the easy way to do the basic research on whether racers (or anybody) could use it for other than an airport runway: Look at a photo of it (or find an overhead image from one of the satellites). If there are big "X" markings at the ends of the strip -- then it is officially closed to air traffic and therefore perhaps eligible to some sweet-talking son of a gun that wants to use it for racing.
That's all there is to "basic research", I'm pretty sure. Go to it!
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Wilmington Industrial Airpark (ILN) is, for sure, WAY less busy than when Airborne/DHL operated their freight logistics center there. However, it's still a public use airport that is owned by Clinton County.
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Here's the easy way to do the basic research on whether racers (or anybody) could use it for other than an airport runway: Look at a photo of it (or find an overhead image from one of the satellites). If there are big "X" markings at the ends of the strip -- then it is officially closed to air traffic and therefore perhaps eligible to some sweet-talking son of a gun that wants to use it for racing.
That's all there is to "basic research", I'm pretty sure. Go to it!
It actually can get a little bit more complicated than that. I know that the Oscoda airport in Michigan can be rented out to race teams as for high speed testing. In KMTO in Illinois allows their ramp to used for autocrossing and appeared to be offering use of one of their taxiways for dragstrip use. I was on the far side of field flying gliders, so I didn't get close enough to look at what they were doing up close, but there are options out there if you can pay the fees.
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Wow! Talking about timing ... I was considering driving up and taking a look at the air field soon. I'm about 2.5 hours away. I noticed some discussions about the air field and the fact that last month control had been given to the Clinton County Port Authority. IIRC, they were given control to seek economic development for the land. I believe it could serve as the "mid-west" track.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ILN,+Wilmington,+OH&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.042042,67.763672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Airborne+Airpark+(ILN),+Wilmington,+Clinton,+Ohio+45177&ll=39.431088,-83.789034&spn=0.034341,0.066175&t=h&z=14 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ILN,+Wilmington,+OH&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.042042,67.763672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Airborne+Airpark+(ILN),+Wilmington,+Clinton,+Ohio+45177&ll=39.431088,-83.789034&spn=0.034341,0.066175&t=h&z=14)
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Ransom T,
Let me know if you come up after the first of the year, I will be out of town until then. I can probably find and make an appointment with someone responsible for the field activities and or development that could show us around and listen to this crazy idea?. I don't know who that is but I bet I can find out and give them a call.
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I am near South Lebanon and time permitting can lend a hand! PM me - let's triple team them!
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What about the weekend of Jan. 8-9 as the first choice? Monday, the 10th, I might be able to do if the folks need a business day to show us their goods. :-)
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If that has a good over run on one end that should work fine. This sound like a great idea and I will bet you can get some good support from the locals.
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What about the weekend of Jan. 8-9 as the first choice? Monday, the 10th, I might be able to do if the folks need a business day to show us their goods. :-)
Dates work for me, RansomT!! :cheers:
As you may or may not know Wilmington is economically depressed after the DHL pullout! :cry:
Maybe we put together a short presentation of the other successful venues?
Or just a walk-about to see if there is any real interest :?
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You might try contacting the folks that organize the Loring and Maxton events for guidance, as they are held at similar venues.
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I believe that this just needs to be a fact finding mission. Check out the air field and maybe talk with someone to get their impression if it is feasible from their end. If everything checks out, then return to make a "pitch". Before making a pitch then we need to tAlk with Joe or who ever could help out on recommendations.
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Hey I live in cols .oh. i'm just about one third on car, but that would be great for me nice and close. If I can help let me know. jmcentire1@yahoo.com.
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The dates work for me, I will find someone to contact that can give us a look around. I think that it is important to present ourselves as being part of an existing organization with the ability and history of putting on this type of event. A good formal presentation will be important at some point in the process. Don't get me wrong I don't mean that we will go as though we are representing ECTA I am not even a member yet.
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The dates work for me, I will find someone to contact that can give us a look around. I think that it is important to present ourselves as being part of an existing organization with the ability and history of putting on this type of event. A good formal presentation will be important at some point in the process. Don't get me wrong I don't mean that we will go as though we are representing ECTA I am not even a member yet.
Agree'd. ....BTW, I sent you an email with some info.
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HI my children are well educated on power point and such as well as other things if it gets to that i'll have them put something together if you want.
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I'm interested!
Have you guys got a point of contact or talked with the airport authority yet?
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I got this email from a fellow overnight -- and will share most of it so we know that there are other groups willing to work with us LSR-types in trying to set up something at Wilmington. I've encouraged him to give me a call if he thinks I can be of help.
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Jon,
My name is Sean Roberts. I have attended standing mile races in Texas and Miami with my turbo Hayabusa. I lived in Dayton, Ohio, which is just up the road from Wilmington, Ohio, for almost 20 years. I have contacted the Clinton County Port Authority about having an event at the Wilmington Air Park. My vision is a Texas Mile-type event that allows seasoned participants as well as locals who just want to see how fast their car or bike can go. I have already done some leg work on the project.
Earlier tonight, someone on suzukihayabusa.org directed me to a thread on landracing.com pertaining to the same thing. I would like to speak with you and get an idea where you stand. Is it possible to call you sometime tomorrow? I am a radio broadcaster and I established my name quite well in that area. I think it could help get this done. Thanks for your time.
Sean Roberts
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I got this email from a fellow overnight -- and will share most of it so we know that there are other groups willing to work with us LSR-types in trying to set up something at Wilmington. I've encouraged him to give me a call if he thinks I can be of help.
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Jon,
My name is Sean Roberts. I have attended standing mile races in Texas and Miami with my turbo Hayabusa. I lived in Dayton, Ohio, which is just up the road from Wilmington, Ohio, for almost 20 years. I have contacted the Clinton County Port Authority about having an event at the Wilmington Air Park. My vision is a Texas Mile-type event that allows seasoned participants as well as locals who just want to see how fast their car or bike can go. I have already done some leg work on the project.
Earlier tonight, someone on suzukihayabusa.org directed me to a thread on landracing.com pertaining to the same thing. I would like to speak with you and get an idea where you stand. Is it possible to call you sometime tomorrow? I am a radio broadcaster and I established my name quite well in that area. I think it could help get this done. Thanks for your time.
Sean Roberts
Slim, et al, there are a group of us that have gotten together and contacted the port authority for a possible walk about on the 10th or 11th of January. Efforts are being duplicated! I will email you and you can have Sean call me.
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I did not try to duplicate any effort and in fact am pleased to see the progress. I did not recieve a reply to my email to the email that I sent to a Clinton County Port Auth. board member. I will be back in Wilmington on the 2nd. and will be happy to support any visit or meeting.
Bruce Harmon
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I've PM'd Sean over on Hayabusa.org basically to make contact and to coordinate efforts. Likewise, I will be out of town until next week and can't do much except enjoy the weather here in Florida. :-D
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I have been working with Sean (106mm on SHO) to get the ball rolling. So far everyone at Wilmington has been VERY receptive to the idea. We are doing a little research regarding insurance, timing equipment, liability, possible dates, and other logistical issues. Bruce, I'll give you a call and get you "in the loop."
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I have been working with Sean (106mm on SHO) to get the ball rolling. So far everyone at Wilmington has been VERY receptive to the idea. We are doing a little research regarding insurance, timing equipment, liability, possible dates, and other logistical issues. Bruce, I'll give you a call and get you "in the loop."
Sean is stirring up considerable interest on SH.O, gathering info ; it is great to see you guys pursuing this.
I have done all the asphalt venues (bike) and would love to try a new one.
If possible, please try not to step on Loring in mid July, I won't miss that one.
Go-guys-GO!!! :cheers:
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Sean is stirring up considerable interest on SH.O, gathering info ; it is great to see you guys pursuing this.
I have done all the asphalt venues (bike) and would love to try a new one.
If possible, please try not to step on Loring in mid July, I won't miss that one.
Go-guys-GO!!! :cheers:
We have been looking at dates hard- double-booking a weekend hurts everybody and makes no sense. Also, it would be nice to hold the event when the temps are in the eighties. Goliad, in leathers, at 100F, is no fun. Open to suggestions!
Though this thread is in ECTA, whether or not this will be an ECTA event is still open for discussion. That being said, the ECTA guys have been extremely helpful in answering logistical questions and making connections. The ability to pick the brains of the people that run the existing events has been invaluable.
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Waiting to see how this works out... nice & close.
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Keeping an eye on this. If you need help with the airport stuff or contacting the Clinton County Port Authority, please let me know.
Josh :mrgreen:
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This would be great. More tracks the better. Only been able to run at maxton and bonneville. Would be nice to have this new course under the same rules and regulations as Maxton though. I feel ECTA has a better handle on safety issues than miami and texas just from what I have read. I like chasing and breaking records not just having a test-n-tune style venue.
Zach
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I checked the mileage closer than Maxton farther than Loring .Sound good to me.
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I'm inpressed keep up the good work ! Jim cols oh
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... I feel ECTA has a better handle on safety issues than ... texas just from what I have read.
Zach
manifest,
every time i see someone repeat this it makes my blood pressure rise.
The Texas event takes safety VERY seriously.
i've done Maxton 3 times, Texas 12 times.
I love participating at both events and the people are GREAT at both.
Maxton does indeed have a more complicated set of tech rules, 3 tech inspectors for over 200mph, but does Maxton's higher level of complexity necessarily make Texas a less safe event in comparison?
The ECTA Team is GREAT, but I gotta think that Joe Timney and his extended nuclear family are stretched putting on 5 Maxton events and strongly supporting the Loring race.
The Texas Team is putting on 3 events in 2011, but their staff is very large.
All that said, i wish the Texas organizers (Jay & Shannon) would look at doing an event in Ohio.
Just my opinion.
Karl
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Sorry I got under your skin but thats my personal view on the topic. It makes my blood boil when I see videos of cars running 200+ without the cage and other safety devices SCTA/ ECTA require, thats the part that makes me question safety.
Now for you bike guys its an entirely different game.
I have spent the better part of my short time here on this earth involved with some form of automobile racing and know I have much to learn. i just want a safe and stable racing operation that I can look forward to racing with for years to come.
Zach
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Zach,
i don't know nuthin' about nuthin' about cars.
:cheers:
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Sorry I got under your skin but thats my personal view on the topic. It makes my blood boil when I see videos of cars running 200+ without the cage and other safety devices SCTA/ ECTA require, thats the part that makes me question safety.
Zach
I don't understand how people that have never raced at Texas always poke or question the way they do things? Why?
You also have to understand that a lot of people want to come out with a street car and see what kind of speeds it will do. It's all great when you are hacking up a RACE car to do the events but some people would just like to see what there DD or weekend toy will run.
Honestly, I'd rather them be doing these high speed runs at a closed course event with safety crews standing by than on the STREET. If they don't want to install every single possible safety equipment possible, I have no issue with that. Like any other racing venue you sign a wavier for your own actions/responsibility so I don't see it any different with land speed.... :?
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Alright I know that some people, me included, want to see what our street cars/ trucks will do and yes it is much safer than doing it down the interstate or some back country road. But I see the need for some limitations to be set for this kind of thing like ECTA has set at 135mph. Go to any established 1/8mile track in the country and run faster than 7.50, guess what, most will tell you to go home until you have a cage and good belts. They don't do this so Jegs can get your money. They do it because their insurance would tell them to kiss their own a$$ if someone was to get lose at the top end. That being said I would hate to see another opportunity such as we may have in OH fall through the cracks because of an accident. Common sense is the same no matter where your running.
Zach
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It's all a liability either way you look at it. Things can and do happen even with all the safety stuff in place. I'd still rather have an open event that anyone can run with safety crews in place than telling them no and it happening on the freeway anyway late at night... :wink:
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. . . I'd still rather have an open event that anyone can run with safety crews in place than telling them no and it happening on the freeway anyway late at night... :wink:
There are events (other than LSR) that do run street cars with minimal to no safety equipment An example is http://www.scda1.com/faq/ maybe those guys could offer some insights as to how they view safety equipment, liability, etc.
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A road-course track-day is a little different than 1-mile accel. It's still nice to have an event like this that anyone could run. Depending on the rules you could eliminate a LARGE majority of the people that would be interested.
What exactly are people worried about?
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I would guess that the issue is insurance liability. If an organizer accepts money from a racer to use the track and get timed, there is a tacit understanding that the organizer is doing all he can to keep people safe. Each sanction makes decisions about how much safety gear will be required. The waivers aren't worth much, ask a lawyer.
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"What exactly are people worried about"?????
One bad injury or death and other venues would have a terrible time getting insurance. If one is stupid enough to go on a highway to see how fast his street car/bike is then they are taking that liability. When a venue gives them a place to do it, then what? Think about it and answer your own question.
Jim
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"What exactly are people worried about?"
How about the off road truck that flew into the crowd in California last August, eight dead.
Sanction body facing huge liability problems.
Would you feel the same if that Lambo that flew in Texas last year took a right turn into the snow fencing? Would there be any scheduled events this year?
DW
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I guess I can give a little insight to this conversation, coming from the perspective that I raced an auto first and then a motorcycle.
What’s the difference between racing a motorcycle at a sanctioned and non-sanctioned high speed venue? Hardly any. If I asked the same question about autos, then I could produce a HUGE list of safety items. This is where some of the disparity lies. Also......
While I do agree 110% that a car has no business going 200+ without a cage, I do believe that we error of the side of caution for autos going well under 200. Yes, if you want to run at Bonneville, you need to set your auto by those safety rules and by all means set your vehicle up to the safety standard you feel most conformable. However, an individual that wants to experience what 150 mph feels like in their street driven new Corvette, shouldn’t have to gut it and install all the safety equipment as required by our sanctioned safety rules. Heck folks, I have friends who do road race in the NASA series http://www.nasaproracing.com/ (http://www.nasaproracing.com/) , who regularly see 175 mph down the long back straightaway at some tracks and they only have 4 point cages. I have attended track days at Road Atlanta where street driven club cars do 150 mph with no cages at all. What do they do about insurance and liability? BTW, you know what happens if you go 150 mph without cage at ECTA? You go home.
Sensibility has to be the key. Yes we need to insure and stress safety, but also need to open the sport up to some lower speed street vehicles . Yes, a turbo Viper running 200 needs to have a bunch of safety equipment, but what about that street driven stock Corvette?
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Thank you thank you RansomT, dw, jb, and sabat.
Like I side before I have no dog in the motorcycle fight so i'll stay on the porch but autos are different. You can get away from a bike. Saw a feller lay one down at maxton in Oct., but a car or truck is different. If I'm not mistaken 135 is the bump for having a 4 or 6 point cage at Maxton. This is a bit low if you have mentioned Vette but I know I wouldn't want to go bottoms up in our Karmann Ghia without a cage and we are just tickling the 140s. But there can't be a rule for each car or year or style or what safety rating it came with in whatever year so its set at 135.
Zach
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Thank you thank you RansomT, dw, jb, and sabat.
Like I side before I have no dog in the motorcycle fight so i'll stay on the porch but autos are different. You can get away from a bike. Saw a feller lay one down at maxton in Oct., but a car or truck is different. If I'm not mistaken 135 is the bump for having a 4 or 6 point cage at Maxton. This is a bit low if you have mentioned Vette but I know I wouldn't want to go bottoms up in our Karmann Ghia without a cage and we are just tickling the 140s. But there can't be a rule for each car or year or style or what safety rating it came with in whatever year so its set at 135.
Zach
and I agree. There is a whole lot of difference between your Karmann Ghia at 140+ and a production Vette at 140+, that I can't answer. But I do know, you can go 150 at Bonneville without a cage.
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150 club rules say:
SAFETY REQUIREMENTS:
A four- (4) point roll bar approved by a recognized Racing sanctioning organization must be installed in the vehicle; driver is responsible to provide objective evidence of approval. Integral Corvette-type roll bar is not acceptable.
http://www.saltflats.com/I50_Club_2009.html (http://www.saltflats.com/I50_Club_2009.html)
Mike
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150 club rules say:
SAFETY REQUIREMENTS:
A four- (4) point roll bar approved by a recognized Racing sanctioning organization must be installed in the vehicle; driver is responsible to provide objective evidence of approval. Integral Corvette-type roll bar is not acceptable.
http://www.saltflats.com/I50_Club_2009.html (http://www.saltflats.com/I50_Club_2009.html)
Mike
I stand corrected ... it's been awhile since I looked at that rule. I guess I am safe to say you can go 139.99 mph without a cage.
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"What exactly are people worried about"?????
One bad injury or death and other venues would have a terrible time getting insurance. If one is stupid enough to go on a highway to see how fast his street car/bike is then they are taking that liability. When a venue gives them a place to do it, then what? Think about it and answer your own question.
Jim
I have thought about it and accidents still happen WITH safety equipment. There is no guarantee that someone will or will not survive a highspeed crash. We can debate that forever...
"What exactly are people worried about?"
How about the off road truck that flew into the crowd in California last August, eight dead.
Sanction body facing huge liability problems.
Would you feel the same if that Lambo that flew in Texas last year took a right turn into the snow fencing? Would there be any scheduled events this year?
DW
You can't even compare the two events. Have you even been to an offroad race like Baja? There is no safety for the fans, those people stand on the track at anytime during the day. That wasn't the first time a vehicle has flow off course at one of those events and probably won't be the last.
As far as comparing it to Texas, there is a safety zone that is protected and people aren't even allowed past a certain point so keeping the vehicles from going into the crowd isn't even in question here. I think you guys have Texas confused with another event. People aren't standing on the edge of the runway while people are racing...
Thank you thank you RansomT, dw, jb, and sabat.
Like I side before I have no dog in the motorcycle fight so i'll stay on the porch but autos are different. You can get away from a bike. Saw a feller lay one down at maxton in Oct., but a car or truck is different. If I'm not mistaken 135 is the bump for having a 4 or 6 point cage at Maxton. This is a bit low if you have mentioned Vette but I know I wouldn't want to go bottoms up in our Karmann Ghia without a cage and we are just tickling the 140s. But there can't be a rule for each car or year or style or what safety rating it came with in whatever year so its set at 135.
Zach
and I agree. There is a whole lot of difference between your Karmann Ghia at 140+ and a production Vette at 140+, that I can't answer. But I do know, you can go 150 at Bonneville without a cage.
All good points RansomT.
However, there were cars that went over 150 at Bonneville without a cage, for a couple TV shows.....how did they get around it?
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I believe the Baja is still run in Mexico. Don't they have different laws there?
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The TV shows don't use a sanctioning body.
The California incident caused the BLM to look at everything really closely and we don't need any more difficulties on the areas used for speed trials'
Pete
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I believe the Baja is still run in Mexico. Don't they have different laws there?
I was just giving an example. The race was in Cali but it's the same for a lot of rally and offroad events. Even Pikes Peak lets you spectate extremely close to the racing...
The TV shows don't use a sanctioning body.
The California incident caused the BLM to look at everything really closely and we don't need any more difficulties on the areas used for speed trials'
Pete
I am talking about a show that was filimed at/during one of the Bonneville Speed events...
We are changing the subject to "what if" scenarios, it was only an example....the issue isn't specatator safety here....
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I am guessing that got-busa is referring to the Top Speed episodes. One was filmed at World of Speed a few years ago when I ran there and they did somehow arrange to run the new 'muscle cars' unaltered all-out. In fact, they jumped in line right in front of me and you can see me waiting by the red vette behind them. They did it on the 130 club mile course versus the long course if that makes a difference. That said it was back in 2008 and I am not sure if they have done it since..
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Alright so lets say got-busa is getting ready to jump in the ring with ole iron mike, I bet he doesn't put a mouth piece in. Or what if they made parachutes optional when you go sky diving? Or everytime you get on a commercial airline they forget to mention that your seat will function as a floatation device? All of this is to help you save yourself. Sh!t can still go wrong and someone could get hurt but the fact that you take the time to at least try to help the situation in the event something goes southis the main part. We don't have control over how other groups handle their safety issues but we do have a say so in LSR. If this OH track becomes available for us to use then by god lets do everything we can to keep everyone safe as possible.
And if anyone is looking at it from a financial standpoint then learn to weld and do things yourself or find another hobby, lord knows this ain't the cheapest thing we could all be doing.
Oh and remember to wear your seatbelt and brush your teeth.
Zach
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I've learned to stay out of these conversations as they are PURE "no win" deals for us.... but here's what I know....
We follow the rules established by the SCTA for the most part..... Maxton and the ECTA is designed to be a place where you can test your Bonneville entry.... that is our primary goal...... however we've made and established rules for "street cars" as well.... and cars that play in that realm need to meet the rules established for the safety of our competitors .... ( our insurance requires we follow the rules we've out lined to them ) With a seat belt you can drive your late model Corvette at Maxton as we've evaluated the roll structure and agree it meets our basic need for a roll bar.
I have raced at Texas and enjoy Jay and Shannon and the events they put on.... I'd defend their right to put on an racing event as they see fit. Differences are like apples and oranges... each of us have our strong points.... Just know I dig them... and the Texas Mile.... it is what it is....
Now lets get back to this airport..... Guys... this place looks GOOD....
Lots of reasons but genuinely it's a viable....
Here's my contact numbers... feel free to call me if you wish to discuss it further.
Keith 334 763 6566
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I am guessing that got-busa is referring to the Top Speed episodes. One was filmed at World of Speed a few years ago when I ran there and they did somehow arrange to run the new 'muscle cars' unaltered all-out. In fact, they jumped in line right in front of me and you can see me waiting by the red vette behind them. They did it on the 130 club mile course versus the long course if that makes a difference. That said it was back in 2008 and I am not sure if they have done it since..
It was just an example, not trying to upset anyone... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrKPPdTuk8I
My main point is I look forward to running at Ohio and hope everything works out. I'd just like for them to allow more street cars to run. If you are running 200+ I understand having full cage and all the required stuff. But, technology has allowed some really fast and neat cars out of the factory these days.
Just to give you an example you can walk into any dealer and get a ZR1/Viper/GT-R,etc. that will run in the 160-170's "OEM stock!" These are the kind of vehicles I would like to see be allowed to run. Kind of funny when my wifes OEM stock 4-door car will run over 135 (borderline 150) and by the rules she would need a roll-cage. This would keep her from racing since we won't cut up a family car with a baby-seat in the back. It would still be nice to have her come out and race without buying ANOTHER race vehicle to do it.... :-D
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While reading the early part of this thread, I happened to watch Mythbusters doing an entertaining episode at Naval Air Station Alameda. Oh! Eureka!
Alameda has an 8000' runway (and a 7200') and the city rents it out to semi-crazies.
Maxton, according to the ECTA website, has 1.9 miles of usable pavement counting the taxiways at both ends.
I found a picture of NAS Alameda:
(http://tenthmil.com/images/uploads/rangeland/alameda_air_old.jpg)
Looks like you'd only go out the back door once :x Ah, well.
Mike
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Mike,
A bit of a tow from the Mid-West.
DW
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While reading the early part of this thread, I happened to watch Mythbusters doing an entertaining episode at Naval Air Station Alameda. Oh! Eureka!
Alameda has an 8000' runway (and a 7200') and the city rents it out to semi-crazies.
Maxton, according to the ECTA website, has 1.9 miles of usable pavement counting the taxiways at both ends.
I found a picture of NAS Alameda:
(http://tenthmil.com/images/uploads/rangeland/alameda_air_old.jpg)
Looks like you'd only go out the back door once :x Ah, well.
Mike
I'll be passing on running here :roll:
Bill
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That Naval Air Station looks as good as the London City Airport which a magazine used for high speed runs. Just a bit safer than the indoor speed records attempted here in the UK, where the limit of the track used is defined by concrete walls.
Malcolm UK, Derby, England
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LSR and daredevil stunts? What a concept. Does someone make aero-pfds? Vehicle flotation devices? Right...right, sounds like it's one more attempt to stiffle our fun.
John
See everyone in April!
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Looking forward to hearing more about this site. Would love to run there. Maxton is great and Texas too but this is only 4 hrs away from us.
Lets hope for good news
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Go to www.wilmingtonmile.com and get on the email list. You can also state your views about a race in Wilmington! Progress is being made...
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Go to www.wilmingtonmile.com and get on the email list. You can also state your views about a race in Wilmington! Progress is being made...
I see you made it!
This man is the Sean referred to in previous posts in this thread.
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The long 2+ mile runway looks great for having a Mile Run with a mile shutdown and even some dirt/grass runoff at the ends.
Hope this location pans out for our LSR future.
Charles
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Watching the site with great interest as I am about 35 miles north of Wilmington airpark. Would be willing to help get this off the ground. Selfish interest of course as my firebird is getting close to running. I could do some legwork or possibly drum up some sponsorship for the event. The area is full of dragstrips and lots of potential for new interest in landspeed. I signed up for the email but haven't heard from anybody.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
bob
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The WilmingtonMile.com website is up just in the last few days. join up!
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You gotta register to even look at it :?
Mike
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My Guess it's probably due more to experience (lack) with the software than desire to exclude you from the "club". Does need to be changed to Read Only for Guests.
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I tried to register and after you do your part you have to wait to be approved ??
I will check and see if I am Ok yet !!
Charles
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We all know the answer to that.
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Charles --- you are okay by me.
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Charles --- you are okay by me.
I agree :evil: :evil: :evil:
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got registered, i hope this comes true i live in cols,oh
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I would suggest that anyone that is remotely interested in racing at Wilimington should register and introduce yourself with your experience. :-D
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I hope it works for all close by...Too far for us new guys....
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Too far? We go to Maxton.
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Too far? We go to Maxton.
I'm retired and disabled......no money..Maxton is only 4 hours, and tuff to do sometimes...Now if you would like to pay for the gas I can put you behind the wheel of a genuine old school fuel burner......
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I've got the -20 firesuit! :-D, understand the cash flow situation. Thought you just didn't want to associate with "Yankees" :cheers:
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I've got the -20 firesuit! :-D, understand the cash flow situation. Thought you just didn't want to associate with "Yankees" :cheers:
LSR people are the best, no matter where there from. I sold my last drag car in 03, thought I had enough. Then went to Maxton....here we go again.....
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What's not to like about Ohio..Jerry Springer (the patron saint of redneck), the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Besides, anybody living near the Research Triangle Park has associated with more yankees than General Grant.
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I tried to register and after you do your part you have to wait to be approved ??
I will check and see if I am Ok yet !!
Charles
Charles,
After the huge spammer hits earlier this year on forum's similar to the http://www.wilmingtonmile.com/ (http://www.wilmingtonmile.com/) I'm an administrator of the http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/ (http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/) where we were also hit hard with 200 - 300 attempts per day, many of the Internet forums have gone to the pre-approval system, it takes a little bit longer at first but helps at almost eliminating the chance of spammers getting onto the forum and then sending their stuff to the membership, I appreciate the concern of the Wilmington Mile administrators. I signed up today.