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El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: FADED on September 08, 2010, 12:04:49 PM
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Sorry to take the focus off minibike racing but hows the lakebed lookin???? It looks like we should have beautiful weather!
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I was wondering the same. Tiny, any updates??
We got some scattered droplets up here in NoCal.
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Lakebed is dry but course not the best
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From SCTA
09/08/10: This weekend, September 11th, is Phelan Phun Days. The parade will start at 10am and the streets will be blocked off. This will effect people coming up Hwy 138 from the 15 north. Sheep Creek Road will be blocked at Phelan Road. Hope this helps get the word out. An alternate route is to go on 138 to Oasis, right on Oasis to Palmdale Rd (Hwy 18) and then right onto Sheep Creek. The Palmdale Road access to Sheep Creek Rd will be unaffected. Susan Foley and Miriam Macmillan
(http://www.phelanphundays.com/2010/images/map.jpg)
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Lakebed is dry but course not the best
Thats because the best aren't there yet : - )
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On the directions above wouldnt it be LEFT on Sheep Creek?
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"Palmdale Rd (Hwy 18) and then right onto Sheep Creek. The Palmdale Road access to Sheep Creek . . ."
It should read . . .
Palmdale Rd (Hwy 18) and then right ON PALMDALE RD. TO Sheep Creek, AND THEN LEFT ON SHEEP CREEK. The Palmdale Road access to Sheep Creek . . .
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. . . and remember the closure is on SATURDAY morning. And how long could a Phelan parade last? Ought to be clear in the afternoon, and for sure by early Sunday morning.
Stan
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well Stan.... how long do ya think it will take for them sheep to follow the feelin' parade route down sheep creek rd?
Kent
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Looks like good weather this week end at Elmo. Hope the course holds up for some good runs.
:cheers:
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I wonder how many vehicles will be running, with WOS next week? I will be going out in the morning with my Camera and find out. I will try and post some results and pictures when I get home.
Tom G.
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We showed up at El Mo yesterday at 3:30 pm and saw that their was a lot of damaged dirt from cars doing donuts however we were also shocked to see BMW out here filming a car commercial and guess what, they were doing donuts and high speed slides all over the lake bed tearing it up. :x
Tiny said they have been out here three days tearing it up!!
Course looks Green and slippery :x
See you all here... :wink:
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I'm at El Mirage. I got here at 3 PM and there is NO line for inspection. Occasionally someone shows up. this is going to be a very small meet. Too bad the track isn't better. You could get multiple runs in easily!
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Things started right on time but no wind and a dusty track is holding it up.
Rick Yacoucci in the normally aspirated flathead was first off the line. He did 183.1 or was it 185 mph. Either way it was a BIG record against the existing 168 according to the announcer. Looks good wih a new paint job and graphics too.
Salty Dog Racing, Was next. It sounded great but he missed the record. did 217 against the 229 mph record.
The tiny #6060, a Costella liner, was having trouble starting. Then once she got on the course, it went outside the cones at the quarter I was told. It must be difficult seeing from that low on the track and the dust is hanging. They have stopped for several minutes and it is still pure dust looking down the track.
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John Noonan just did 248.3 mph! announcer said it is a record so he must be in a different class than July when he did 252 mph.
The Hondata set a record and a bit of a breeze is starting. Life is good at El Mirage.
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After Noonan and Salty Dogs I haven't seen another vehicle in the 200mph line. Noonan probably has the High Speed of the Meet
the six rookies at this meet are showing up now with their vehicles. S CTA has a new rookie orientation procedure. They have to watch the first ten entries leaving the line. Then they go down and watch at the lights and finish line. after that they can get in the rookie line for licensing passes. The BLM is watching closely and they want NO mistakes.
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Wendy, thanks for the updates :-D
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John Noonan just did 248.3 mph! announcer said it is a record so he must be in a different class than July when he did 252 mph.
The Hondata set a record and a bit of a breeze is starting. Life is good at El Mirage.
Way to go John Boy! :cheers:
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Wendy, thanks for the updates :-D
X2
Mike
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At 11:44 we started second runs.
the little #6060 ran again and got it inside the cones this time for a record at 158 mph.
Lattin and Gillette have a new car his grandson is driving. It is a 1931 Austin American 3-windowed coupe. Too cute! (hey I'm a female). He put the record up 5mph to 85 mph.
It's getting HOT but at least there is just enough breeze down the track to clear the dust. they say there is a soft spot mid way down the track and no way around it. They simply have to drive through it and it clears up on the other side.
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Wendy, You are WONDERFUL. Stay on the upwind side.
THANX
FREUD
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I think Iheard them call round 4 a few minutes ago. I believe Noonan went over 240. The course has a big soft spot and like Wendy said theres no way around it. I went through it and went right for a few feet. Ran 120 on a 116 record so I can't complain. Hell we're racing so what is there to complain about?
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Nort, good for you! do you know if #701 LeFevers roadster got in a good run. Thanks for all updates from everyone
:cheers:
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At 11:44 we started second runs.
Lattin and Gillette have a new car his grandson is driving. It is a 1931 Austin American 3-windowed coupe. Too cute! (hey I'm a female). He put the record up 5mph to 85 mph.
Unblown Vintage Gas Coupe - /VGC
V4F Minimum 80.000
Gawd! 16" narrower and 28" shorter than any contemporary vehicle!! 75" wheelbase. British Austin 15 hp engine.
(http://wmspear.com/bill/Bantam//blkauscp.gif)
Three inch beauty chop (!), SCTA roll cage, include a ?Ford? flathead four, and where does the driver go???
Pictures, please, someone! :cheers:
Mike
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:cheers: Wendy! Thanks for your up dates. I had other commitments this week end so I really enjoy having the on-line up dates! Thanks again! Crow.
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Here are some times I heard this morning by car or bike number.
Tom G.
585 B 151.xxx
85 179.xxx
1169 172.xxx
387 153.xxx
2101 187.xxx
139 B 120.xxx
7550 112.xxx
243 123.xxx
637 148.xxx
131 turn out
378 175.xxx
947 B Rookie
7919 B 120.xxx
3791 B 169.xxx
102 92.xxx
3535 B 203.xxx Record
7712 111.xxx Rookie
539 B 201.xxx Record
354 B 170.xxx
794 B 143.xxx
Rasberry Rocket 175.xxx
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This is what the lakebed looked like this morning just past the finish line.
Tom G.
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This picture is not very good, but it is better than nothing so I will post it. For best results double click on the picture for the close up of the Rasberry Rocket.
Tom G.
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The dust is behind the car so it shows it's pretty clean and not a vacuum pulling it back and under the lakester. Good shot. A lot of coupes have a lot of dirt under the rear.
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Here is one of #352 Studebaker, again click twice to get a better view.
Tom G.
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The Austin ran at SW -- maybe a photo there?
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From '58 or so until '65 I had a '31 Austin 3 window. Rare car I thought all the Austins were 5 windows. Mine was a pickup cab with a trunk brazzed on. I can't believe Lattin has that thing. Anyone with a picture?
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The Austin ran at SW -- maybe a photo there?
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#69 Lattin & Gillette STR had seven turn outs (!), photo by Seldom Seen:
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Speedweek%202010/IMG_1736.jpg)
I've compiled a list of all of the V4 runs and there were no vintage gas coupes recorded that I found or other vehicles with Lattin/Gillette in the name (I haven't double-checked that - your mileage may vary).
:cheers:
Mike
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Sidecar.
Tom G.
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Car 9898.
Tom G.
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You sit in an Austin American Coupe the same place you sit in an Austin American Roadster..................... :-D
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See next post for information on this bike. Thanks, John.
Tom G.
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Bike.
Tom G.
Tom,
That earned Ralph Hudson his Dirty 2 hat with a run of 203 mph!! Congrats to him on his stellar achievements this year, two hats for him and one for his racing partner who plastered a ton of mph on the existing 750 records at Bonneville a few weeks ago.
Watch for even higher speeds for these two. :cheers:
John
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Bike.
Tom G.
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Nort, good for you! do you know if #701 LeFevers roadster got in a good run. Thanks for all updates from everyone
:cheers:
Thanks for checking on us Glen. Kevin ran 203 on a 208 record. We've just got to step up our program... :-(
John Beck in the #511 st/roadster ran a 207 on a 202 for a record. :cheers:
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Thank you for the info, do you think that the course conditions kept you guys from getting the record?
John
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Thank you for the info, do you think that the course conditions kept you guys from getting the record?
John
John, I want to think that BUT......
after you go out and spin the tires in every gear...... run on the limiter...... and go 248...... WTF do I know..... 8-)
Good job man!
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Back home now. Here's a picture of the three windowed Austin American. Lattin and Gillette. Record at 85 MPH.
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Cool! Thanks! :cheers:
Mike
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Thank you for the info, do you think that the course conditions kept you guys from getting the record?
John
John, I want to think that BUT......
after you go out and spin the tires in every gear...... run on the limiter...... and go 248...... WTF do I know..... 8-)
Good job man!
Thank you..we tried a few different things hoping to keep a decent starting position and never thought we could run that number on Gas on that course..special thanks to Subaki for making a great chain to drive the front wheel as well since that is legal at this time.
John
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Love it. Thanks for the picture.
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Thanks for the sidecar photo Tom!!
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Thanks for the sidecar photo Tom!!
Bill,
You are welcome, I just wish it was a better picture. If you want the original just email me and I will send it to you.
Tom G.
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Lattins car might just a little over tired.......that's tires..............Cool
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OK -- I were rong.
The coupe was pre-entered at SW -- see program. In the program picture it was a 5-window. the one at El Mirage is a sedan delivery(?) -- or modified top.
Stan
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Mike - Sorry you didn't get the record. Try this: "Wayne,'ol buddy, 'ol pal, can I borrow your dual quads?" vic
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JD
He had flint"stones" on all 4 corners....
KR
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Kent..I wonder if he would like my original 1930 hood side panels................JD
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I didn't know that streamlining was allowed on the hood sides in Gas Coupe(?).
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Gotta give it up to John Noonan, that man can ride a motorcycle. I ain't never seen anybody that can ride a bike like this guy. Valentino Rossi could learn a few things from John. I don't know how he does it. Just an amazing pass. Talked to him a few moments before he was ready to go, into a pure dust cloud that was sitting on the top end and going nowhere. He was a vision of confidence when he told the starter " yea , I'll go , and be safe, no problem". And let me tell you, if you wern't there, he found pretty much no traction that I could tell. It was all throttle control and probley a little weight shifting around on the bike all the way down. I am so amazed at his skill.
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You also gotta love the Lefevers family, those boys , guided by there dad , are doing really well , and getting that hot rod down the coarse. Mike knows how to build some big H.P. and when he thinks the boys are ready , just my guess , we will see some big numbers from those boys. Great car , great people.
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Thanks for the kind words John. :cheers:
We ( Dad and Bro Kevin) were VERY impressed by your 207 MPH pass on a 202 MPH record!!! Congrats!!! :cheers:
As far as Noonan goes... Simply amazing!!! :cheers:
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John, Gas Coupes are like Street Roadsters with similar rules. How many Street Roadsters have stock louvers side panels on their hoods. One difference is a Gas Coupe must have a stock hood length where a Street Roadster can have a specified inch extention. Amereican Austins are very hard to work with.........JD
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On that Austin, did Moon tanks come stock?
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Thank you for the info, do you think that the course conditions kept you guys from getting the record?
John
John, I want to think that BUT......
after you go out and spin the tires in every gear...... run on the limiter...... and go 248...... WTF do I know..... 8-)
Good job man!
Thank you..we tried a few different things hoping to keep a decent starting position and never thought we could run that number on Gas on that course..special thanks to Subaki for making a great chain to drive the front wheel as well since that is legal at this time.
John
2 WHEEL drive? is it similar to dirt bike 2 wheel drive systems? How about some pics
Your not yanking our chain are you :wink:
JL222
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NAW you just KNOW Noonan would jerk our chain :-D
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Not sure yrs truly needs to refer to the rule book to clarify louvers in hood side panels.
Have a personal experience with one St Roadster who had set several records with small (3-4") louvers & made new panels with 6' ones and picked up 4MPH . Nobody protested the car before or after.
DECK lid louvers in STR? NoNONONONONO!
We witnessed that AMERICAN AUSTIN'S (Not a Bantam!) run Sunday and for all you TECHNOCRITICS methinks there should be allowances for COOL, QUIRKY, stuff!
And I'm not a Lattin fan!
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IB, here's your chance to be cool & quirky:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150491446714&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150491446714&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Mike
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All you need is Billy Barty and your in.................... :-D
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IB, here's your chance to be cool & quirky:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150491446714&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150491446714&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Mike
It's always a "Barn Find" :lol:
How many barns are out there anyway :-D